so i just got this POS wheel off ebay.  it appears to be from an 89.  the bearings dont spin in the wheel at all. i have my wrecked wheel with good bearings but cant get them out!  help!

Quote from: weaselnozeso i just got this POS wheel off ebay.  it appears to be from an 89.  the bearings dont spin in the wheel at all. i have my wrecked wheel with good bearings but cant get them out!  help!

Go buy new wheel bearings.  You will ruin the bearings when you remove them.  Bearings are cheap compared to what will happen when they fail while you are riding.

what D-day said

so wait.. they arent sealed?  i dont have time to get new bearings before the ride comin up on the weekend.  is there anything i can do?  maybe they arent as bad as i thought.  what can i do to check them?

There will be a number somewhere on the bearing.  Find it.

Look in the yellow pages under "bearings" or "power transmission".  Find a bearing supply and go there w/ the old bearing and the number.  

If they're a real bearing supply they'll come back with the correct one and you'll be on your way.  

They're usually cheaper than the dealer too.   :kiss:

its sealed tho right? like rollerblade bearing cases?  how the hell do i get them out?  just some persuasion and elbow grease?

Check them? If they do not spin then that is a very good sign that they are bad. If they do spin and they grind, they are bad.

I have known people to use a heat gun to heat up the wheel to remove the bearings. The wheel hub expands and the bearings fall out. You have nothing to lose if the wheel is already trashed. The best option is to replace the bearings with new ones. The size is 15x42x13. Call a dealer they may have them. Part# 08123-63027

It does not take that long to change them. But you need to put the bearings in the freezer overnight before installing them.

Odd thing is that the factory bearing only have a seal on one side and the replacement bearing have two seals.

ok so what's the timkin pn, mr. smarty pants?

You need a drift punch ... a good one with a striker plate will make the bearings fly out in 2-3 blows ... Then knock the new ones in with a 30 or 32 socket on them ... and the seals if they are metal you're fine, but if they have plastic seals ... you might damage them wheile knocking it ... so remove the ones on the side you whack them ... and re install after whacking it in ... BTW not spinning may just mean its got a tiny piece of debris in between the spacer sleeve and bearing inner race ... bad bearings usually feel loose ... way loose, and the inner race shakes and wobbles and feels notchy ...
Cool.
Srinath.

ok i've got 2 wheels with bearings and a new set of bearings going into the good wheel.  i've been smacking the shaZam! out of the old bearings on both wheels using a 2lb sledge and a tire iron.  i've tried both sides.  btw which side should i be smacking? the one side has tabs on it (the wheel not the bearing).  i cant get either set to move at all. HELP.  time is running out!

can they be hit thru?  or do they have to come from the middle out?

Quote from: weaselnozecan they be hit thru?  or do they have to come from the middle out?

They have to come out from inside of the wheel.  You cannot drive them through.  It won't help you now, but they actually make a tool to remove the bearings from wheels.  If you really get crazy, you can ruin the wheel by getting really heavy handed trying to remove the bearings.

You could always break down and go to a dealer.

damnit. why didnt someone tell me that before!!! lol. i destroyed the wrecked wheel.  completely reshaped it into a swan.  ive had enuf of this shaZam!. im goin to the stealer.  bye

drove to like 8 different places and there was no mechanic to do it.  im gonna cut them out with a dremel.

ok seriously im pissed now.  has anyone removed bearings by hand ie. without a tool?  how the hell is it possible??

I did some Google searching (for images and otherwise) and found the following stuff pretty quickly:

Nice How-To

http://www.off-road.com/dirtbike/tech/bearings/

So-so How-To
http://www.motorcycle.com/mo/mcnuts/bearings.html

Auto-related, but with a couple of good drawings
http://www.users.bigpond.com/jack_stands/automotive_advice/car_suspension/wheel_bearings/wheel_bearing.html

Tapered Drift Punch
http://www.railwayparts.com/2310002a/index.html

Brass Drift and Punch
http://www.ipdusa.com/ProductsCat.aspx?CategoryID=1572&NodeID=5198&RootID=1414

See the bottom of this page for an interesting home-made tool:
http://vjmc.org/techtips/bearings.htm[/list:u]I also found 3 relevant threads by doing a "Search for all terms" GStwin search for "bearings drift".

thank you kerry.  i ended up hacking at the bearing till i broke it to pieces.  then i was able to get the other bearing out in a few seconds.  bearing issue fixed.  on to the next.

Quote from: weaselnozeok seriously im pissed now.  has anyone removed bearings by hand ie. without a tool?  how the hell is it possible??

I have used a 3/8" long socket extension and a good old hammer to remove wheel bearings from wheels.

There is a spacer sleeve between the two bearings in the wheel and you can usually push it to one side which will allow for you to see the inner lip of the bearing.  At this point you can slide the 3/8" socket extension into the hub until it makes contact with the inner lip of the bearing.  At this point use the hammer to knock the bearing out.  It should only take one or two good hits on the extension if it is placed properly against the bearing.

Once the first bearing is out the sleeve will just fall out and then you can knock out the other bearing.  

The only problem with this method is that it can damage the bearing due to hammering on the inner part of the bearing.  Usually the only reason to remove a bearing is that it is no good so damaging it is no big deal but in your case you want to reuse the good bearing out of your damaged wheel and all that I can say is good luck with not hurting them when you remove them.

Now when you install them you want to use a 30mm or 32mm socket and a hammer to drive them into the hub.  The 30mm or 32mm socket will make contact with only the outer edge of the bearing and will not harm the bearing when you drive it home with the hammer.

DO NOT FORGET TO INSTALL THE INNER SLEEVE BETWEEN THE TWO BEARING WHEN INTSALLING THE SECOND BEARING.  IF THIS SLEEVE IS NOT IN PLACE YOU WILL END UP DAMAGING THE WHEEL, THE FORKS, AND MAYBE YOUR OWN LIFE.

get a drift....10-15 bucks and a hammer....i think you have a BFH

take the drift and slide it in like an axle....
when the drift goes thru almost to the opposite brg...jam it sideways.....
the drift will catch on the inner race
hammer it out

it is designed to jam better on one side than the other...check both and start with the easier one

If you are unsure how something goes together, put the hammer down and look at a parts fiche.