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Pushed In Turn Signal Into Fairing

Started by Phaedrus, August 05, 2005, 04:35:03 PM

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Phaedrus

Another n00b question. I was trying to get my bike on it's centerstand and it kinda got away from me  :o . Ok, thats normal...this is the third time I've knocked the bike over.  :x  

No damage except for the right hand turn signal got PUSHED INSIDE THE FAIRING. Those of you with an "F" probably know what I mean. So now it is all loose and wobbly. I was hoping to replace them with some smaller turn signals anyway, but I don't know how to go about that. I tried pulling it back out and straightening it out, but it just dangles there.

As it is right now, it is rigged with tape on th inside of the fairing  :oops:

Does anyone know how I can fix this? I wan't it to be stiff and pointing the right way, not all loose and limp  :lol:

Any help is appreciated. And here is a pic if you can see what I mean:

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LadyJules31

Quote from: PhaedrusAnother n00b question. I was trying to get my bike on it's centerstand and it kinda got away from me  :o . Ok, thats normal...this is the third time I've knocked the bike over.  :x  


Does anyone know how I can fix this? I wan't it to be stiff and pointing the right way, not all loose and limp  :lol:


  Get a Yellow bike... that'll fix it.  :thumb: You sure do have alot of problems with your BLUE bike.  :nono:  ;)
Jules
Yellow 2004 Suzuki GS500F

R.I.P. Rich, you will be dearly missed!

  

Chris.t.Collins

First how do you dump the bike putting it on the center stand?  Grab the back and puch your foot towards the front!  Works every time.... My buddy Mike taught me this.

The signal is rubber.  I think you could just pull the damn thing back out.
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Phaedrus

Jules - Hah, I don't think it is the bike. It is totally the rider that has issues.  :P By the way Julie, some of us RIDE our bikes daily..which gives us plenty of time to do stupid things like this with'em. When your lil 3,000 mile bike starts growing up you'll find out  :lol:  :kiss:

Chris - Well, it is hard to explain. I'm not a huge guy, about 170lbs, and I can't just pop it onto the stand. I have to roll it backwards to get some momentum going and then use that to my advantage  :lol:  But while it was going backwards, I wasn't able to hold the damn near 400lbs up by myself as it started to lean over. I slowed it down, though. And yes it is rubber and yes it is easy to move around..but it is LOOSE. That is what I can't figure out. It is so loose that it just flops in the breeze. It is not firm like the other side is. And on the inside of the fairing, I see no way to secure it?  :dunno:
Richard died in a motorcycle accident that was at no fault of his own.  We lost a good friend and good member of this board.  Though Rich may be gone, his legacy will live on here.

Photos from the June '06 Northeast GStwin Meet

'04gs500f

best bet is to to remove the rear nut and the actual signal on the end of the stalk and pull it through, if you try to just pull it out you may damage the plastic even more\....

Roadstergal

Quote from: Phaedrusabout 170lbs

Oh, I wish I had that much leverage... :p

You should be able to get it up while maintaining your control.  At every point, there should be a stable connection of bike to ground.

With it on the side stand, push on the center-stand foot lever.  It doesn't take much weight to get it on the ground, and then to move the bike to the vertical so that both 'feet' of the centerstand are on the ground.  At this point, a moderate amount of force on the 'foot-pedal' part of the centerstand should be holding the bike up, without any need for input with your hands.  You might want to play with that.

Now, when you're at that point, make your foot and your rearmost hand do the work.  Put all of your weight on the centerstand, and at the same time lift UP on the passenger's footpeg or grab bar.  Don't pull back; the centerstand pressure will make sure the bike goes back.  Don't pull on the bars; the hand on the bars should just be keeping the front wheel pointed forward, no more.  Don't be afraid to give a good hard pull up while you stand on the centerstand.

However, if you don't get it up at first, don't take your foot off of the centerstand.  Keep that moderate amount of pressure on it, and the bike will stabilize vertically.  If you lift, the bike will fall.

blue05twin

There is a nut behind the turn signal stalk.  Remove the nut and you'll have to pull the turn signal out of the fairing.  You will see a washer that fits in the hole and it's center is cut into a square.  Place the washer back into the fairing fit the turn signal stalk to it and retighten the nut.  If that washer thing is broken or bent you will have to replace it.  Hope this kind of explains it. . . . I'm not good at explaining tech stuff.  That washer is more of a bracket actually.
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Chris.t.Collins

Are you kidding me?   Center stand is easy.  I am only 220!
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calamari

...
the center stand is the one thing on my bike that I have not tried yet  :?
im a bit afraid to drop her, so I haven't got enough courage to try that.

btw, everyone knows that blue is the fastest, meanest and more powerful color that there is  :P
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Chris.t.Collins

Black is slick and fast, high speed low drag.
BTW I have a RAT bike
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un1261

That is what I did to bike, I'm just leaving it this way. Looks like it has no stock now. I just pushed all the wat flush.
8)
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92 E= Track bike.

rclz

I think your missing a piece of plastic with a small hole in the middle that goes into the inside of the fairing and fits flush in that bigger bottle opener shape hole. Un screw the nut on the back of the signal and pull it out and check if that piece is still there.
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jakkyl

QuoteI was hoping to replace them with some smaller turn signals anyway




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cobalt135

Here is what I did.  I purchased some LP Short Stalk V signals



And used a 1 1/2" hole saw to cut some pieces from aprox. 1/8" plastic I had laying around.  I took the little circle that you actually cut out and used a pencil grinder (a dremel with the right bit or even sandpaper should work) to round the edges and enlarge the center hole (so the signals screw will pass though) that the drill bit part of the hole saw made and came up with this...





You might have to cut an additional "circle" for the inside of the fairing to "sandwich" the remaining fairing on the damaged side.  If your interested or need other photos let me know and I will post up more info.
Craig

'05 GS500F sold to friend

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calamari

...
looking good  :thumb:

however, is kinda sad that you dropped the bike a few times already  :(
i have a new gs500f 2005 and blue also.
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rritterson

step by step:

some may disagree, but I suggest removing the lower fairing on that side. It'll make it much easier to get to the wires as well as the nut holding the signal in place.

see my other topics on how to remove the side fairing

once you have that off, just loosen the nut holding the stalk in. You'll probably want to disconnect the two wires connecting the signal to the wiring harness too, so you have more slack.

Then, just unscrew the nut all the way, and then unscrew the rectangular piece of plastic. Once those are dangling on the wires, it should be easy to wiggle the turn signal back out.

Now you just have to put the plastic piece back on and tighten the nut. Note that the plastic piece is keyed to only fit two ways. It's like that to help you get the turn signals on level instead of tilted. Look at it carefully until you figure it out, or it will be very hard to screw everything back together.

I believe the nut is a 12mm, but I might be mistaken.

edit: about the centerstand. Every time I try to put the bike on the centerstand while I'm straddling it, i almost fall over and bring the bike with me. I use this method, which I read online some where:

First, put the bike on the sidestand and dismount. Stand on the left sideof the bike. Then, while the bike is still leaned over, push down on the centerstand as hard as you can. Now, lean the bike up so it's resting on both of the centerstand's legs.

Now, straighten the handle bars with your left hand and use it to steady the bike while you grab the passenger grab rail and lift up and back with your right hand. I find it really easy to do, unless the bike is parked facing downhill.

airbrush

I make a gasket set for installing flush mounts, i think it makes the front end look cleaner with those. Plus they have more viewing angle than the short stalks do...so those cagers know that you're turnin'.:thumb:

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Phaedrus

Whew, thanks to some of you guy's advice, I got the turn signal issue fixesd. Now I am like "Duh", because no that I know what to do, I see how simple it was. Makes me feel silly for not seeing that as apparent to begin with! I just unscewed the nut, pulled the stalk bac through and re-nutted it w/ the washer so it is in there nice and firm. Thanks  :thumb:

As for replacing them, that might very be my next modification. I'm going to do some research thanks to this thread and the other related one, so I think soon enough I'll have some nice looking turn signals  :thumb:
Richard died in a motorcycle accident that was at no fault of his own.  We lost a good friend and good member of this board.  Though Rich may be gone, his legacy will live on here.

Photos from the June '06 Northeast GStwin Meet

groff22

Same thing happened to me. I just removed the fairing to do some other work and while I was at it, just pushed the signal through again... Good as new...

But should certainly remove the fairing before trying to push or tug....

JG
04' GS500F

daneilah

Quote from: PhaedrusWhew, thanks to some of you guy's advice, I got the turn signal issue fixesd. Now I am like "Duh", because no that I know what to do, I see how simple it was. Makes me feel silly for not seeing that as apparent to begin with! I just unscewed the nut, pulled the stalk bac through and re-nutted it w/ the washer so it is in there nice and firm. Thanks  :thumb:

Don't feel bad.... I did the exact same thing to my turn signal.  It was held on with tape for weeks before I attempted to fix it.  When I finally got up the nerve it was pretty darn simple.  I used the exploded parts diagram on BikeBandit for a hint on how it held together.  Sure felt good to be able to fix it yourself eh?   :thumb:
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