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Chain Lubes... What's Hot and What's Not

Started by Code4, August 09, 2005, 05:53:32 PM

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Code4

I currently use Bel-Ray with 'molyphos' chain lube, and have for the last 5,200 KM. For the first 1,800 I was using a synthenetic crystal clear chain guard by Maxima. I found this stuff to be like tar, no matter how much you put on, it stayed on. The Bel-Ray does a much better job of keeping my chain cleaner by flinging of road grime.  I am sure everyone has a favorite... The floor is open.

cheesy

i had pj1 (I think?) black-label.  it was a mess and got freaking EVERYwhere


I then was recommended the 'blue label' .. it's clear and works more like a wax.  it's runny when you put it on, then you wipe off excess, then it kind of gets stickier.. stays on the chain. I like it a lot

GSRider

I have been using Maxima chain wax since I bought the bike.
Good stuff, I like it :)
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Larry

FYI, the last time I cleaned my chain I used an "odorless" liquid lamp fuel.  I put it on a rag and it worked great.  No "kero" smell on my hands.  I think it is a highly refined kerosene product.  I then used Maxima spray wax.  Done in no time.
Larry
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raylarrabee

I use the PJ1 and have white wheels...my bike always looks filthy.
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davipu

one of the perks of havig black wheels. cleaning the chain is optional.

97gs500e

I prefer the old KY warming jelly, unlimited uses  :)
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nissan chain lube.

Spray can.

I clean with wd40 and dry it with paper napkins from a gas station. Then i spray on the lube.
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Jazzzzz

Quote from: 97gs500eI prefer the old KY warming jelly, unlimited uses  :)

Can't tell if you're joking or not (I assume you are, but just in case) - KY is water-based and will wash off your chain super-fast.  It also has sugars in it that will carmelize as the chain heats up.  You'd be better off using snot to lube your chain.

daneilah

I started with the generic Motomaster chain lube from Canadian Tire.  Lubed well but made a heckuva mess of the bike.  The lube ended up flung everywhere.

Switched to Chain Wax (from Maxima).  It's a gold and black can.  It's sprays onto your warm chain as a liquid.  Then you let it set up for 15 minutes.  It turns into a wax sealing the lubrication into the chain.

It's very easy to use and doesn't make any mess.

I apply it by putting the bike on the center stand and running it in first gear.  As the wheel spins I aim at the inside of the chain where it runs into the rear sprocket.  I hold a piece of cardboard behind the chain as I'm doing this to keep the overspray off the wheel.

Seems to work well   :thumb:
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Quote from: daneilahI started with the generic Motomaster chain lube from Canadian Tire.  Lubed well but made a heckuva mess of the bike.  The lube ended up flung everywhere.

Switched to Chain Wax (from Maxima).  It's a gold and black can.  It's sprays onto your warm chain as a liquid.  Then you let it set up for 15 minutes.  It turns into a wax sealing the lubrication into the chain.

It's very easy to use and doesn't make any mess.

I apply it by putting the bike on the center stand and running it in first gear.  As the wheel spins I aim at the inside of the chain where it runs into the rear sprocket.  I hold a piece of cardboard behind the chain as I'm doing this to keep the overspray off the wheel.

Seems to work well   :thumb:

Two questions. First, I have been confused by the directions to spray on the "inside of the chain". Does this mean that when you are seated next to your bike and are facing the chain, we lubricate the rollers that touch the sprocket, the side of the chain nearest us, or the side of chain furthest from us? I have never really been clear. I've been spraying down on the inside of the side of the chain nearest me.

Second, isn't it a poor idea to run the bike while waxing? I can imagine a few things that could go wrong.  :o

Dave  :cheers:
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RVertigo

I use "Blue Label" clear stuff...  It's easy to put on and the guy at the Stealership told me it was good.   :lol:

I have no clue if it's actually good though. :dunno:

97gs500e

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Quote from: 97gs500eI prefer the old KY warming jelly, unlimited uses  :)

Can't tell if you're joking or not (I assume you are, but just in case) - KY is water-based and will wash off your chain super-fast.  It also has sugars in it that will carmelize as the chain heats up.  You'd be better off using snot to lube your chain.


OMG, you didn't know if I was joking?

No, I lied I don't use KY on my chain.  Beating-off onto the chain while my asian gf spins the back wheel is way too convenient.
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Quote from: 2005-GS500-PDXTwo questions. First, I have been confused by the directions to spray on the "inside of the chain". Does this mean that when you are seated next to your bike and are facing the chain, we lubricate the rollers that touch the sprocket, the side of the chain nearest us, or the side of chain furthest from us? I have never really been clear. I've been spraying down on the inside of the side of the chain nearest me.

Second, isn't it a poor idea to run the bike while waxing? I can imagine a few things that could go wrong.  :o

Dave  :cheers:

Let's see if I can clear this up for you:

First, think of the chain as a loop (which, in fact, it is, while it is installed on the motorcycle). The OUTSIDE of the loop is the part closest to the ground on the bottom run, and the side closest to the seat on the top run. Start with a warm chain (IOW, ride the bike for a while before you begin), then spray the lube on the TOP of the bottom run, on the side OPPOSITE the ground, and spin the wheel slowly until you've covered the entire chain several times. Then, let the chain lube set up before you GENTLY wipe off any excess on the BOTTOM (ground side) of the bottom run with a CLEAN, DRY rag. Again, spin the wheel slowly, and make sure the chain completes several revolutions.

Secondly, it doesn't take a genius to realize that there isn't much difference between a running motorcycle and a running chainsaw. I've NEVER seen a professional mechanic (yes, I was a stealership mechanic back in the day) lube a chain with an engine running, or while the bike was in gear.

People who lube chains with the bike running, in gear, stop doing it the first time the shaZam! hits the fan. Back in 1975, I saw my (now EX-) brother-in-law chainsaw off the first two fingers on his right hand, AFTER I told the ignorant peckerhead NOT to lube his chain with the engine running. The rag he was WIPING the chain with got pulled into the countershaft; he'd wrapped the rag around his hand to keep it from getting snagged by the chain, but obviously, the chain won that fight. I wrapped his hand with some of the rags he'd been using, then removed the countershaft sprocket cover in order to retrieve his fingers, which were chewed to a bloody pulp. I then drove him to the hospital (he bled all over my pickup); since his fingers were mangled beyond repair, the ER doc simply tossed them into a jar of formaldehyde as he prepped the (ex)B-I-L for surgery.

My sister threw a FIT when she found out what had happened, and blamed ME because her duck-head husband suffered a SELF-INFLICTED wound; we didn't speak for several years after that, but you better believe I told BOTH of them what I thought of him for being a moron, and of her for MARRYING a moron. She's on her FOURTH husband now; fifty bucks says she'll be divorced AGAIN within three years. What can I say; she's a moron-magnet, and she isn't intelligent enough to know one when she meets one, or to simply run the other direction.

Hope that answers both of your questions; just be thankful that neither of us live anywhere near 97gs500e or his imaginary asian girlfriend, OK?

daneilah

Quote from: 2005-GS500-PDXTwo questions. First, I have been confused by the directions to spray on the "inside of the chain". Does this mean that when you are seated next to your bike and are facing the chain, we lubricate the rollers that touch the sprocket, the side of the chain nearest us, or the side of chain furthest from us? I have never really been clear. I've been spraying down on the inside of the side of the chain nearest me.

Second, isn't it a poor idea to run the bike while waxing? I can imagine a few things that could go wrong.  :o

Dave  :cheers:

I'll post a picture later showing where I spray the lube.

As for running the engine while you lube the chain.  I agree that it's not something to be undertaken lightly but I need one hand to hold the can and one hand to hold the cardboard so the wheel has to spin itself.  You also get nice even coverage with the engine running.  It's not something you do when you've been drinking, and you make darn sure you keep your fingers away from the sprocket.
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OK, I see. So spray the bottom run on top (opposite of the ground), which will cover the little lobes that the chain grabs, as well as the sides that need lube to stay flexible. Thanks a lot for that.

And I would never consider waxing it in gear, I was just wondering why he would do that. I've had the rag grab the chain and pull me towards the sprocket, and thank God it wasn't running in gear.

Dave  :cheers:
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Quote from: Jazzzzz
Quote from: 97gs500eI prefer the old KY warming jelly, unlimited uses  :)

Can't tell if you're joking or not (I assume you are, but just in case) - KY is water-based and will wash off your chain super-fast.  It also has sugars in it that will carmelize as the chain heats up.  You'd be better off using snot to lube your chain.


OMG, you didn't know if I was joking?

No, I lied I don't use KY on my chain.  Beating-off onto the chain while my asian gf spins the back wheel is way too convenient.



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Yah, I believe it... :P

I've used 10w30 motor oil on it with a paint brush..I've used 90w gear oil on it via an applicator..I've used spray on chain and cable lube on it..the chain/cable lube is nice but it is hard not to overpsray with it (aerosol style spray can). The 90w gear oil was ok, used that a couple of times but it was the messiest, caused the most run off and splatter, and had a weird smell when it got hot..hehe. The motor oil seemed to work pretty good though. I guess I wil keep trying different things till I find what works best :)
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