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I too am having stalling issues.

Started by leo, August 30, 2005, 11:25:24 AM

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leo

My question is at the bottom. I'm going to ramble a bit.

Well it just started stalling, even if it was in neutral and you give it some gas, it would die. Not all the time, but if it's a soft enough turn it will kill. So I had to keep the rpms up at stops so that I wouldn't stall.

After researching here, I figured I knew what the problem was. I was going to raise the idle. But I have an 04 and I couldn't find it easily. I just ordered the Clymer manual. I'm pretty lost without it.

But anyway, back to this morning. I tried starting it and it would die of course. I would then try to use the choke and it would stay running but the RPM's don't rise when using the choke. It used to work before and it's been almost 2 days that I have ridden it.

So my main question for now is what does it mean when turning on the choke and the rpm's don't go up?  I believe it might mean fouled plugs correct? I know I saw someone mention it on here, but I can't find that anymore. I'm irritated now.

The bike only has 200 miles.

scratch

You've tried using the choke (adds more gas) now try using the throttle (adds more gas, but adds more air, too). How about your airfilter?
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scratch

Quote from: leoSo my main question for now is what does it mean when turning on the choke and the rpm's don't go up?  I believe it might mean fouled plugs correct?
Could be. I'd be more inclined to say that when the rpm's don't go up when you add choke, that means that it's starved for air. You're missing part of the fire triangle: air.  It doesn't help if you're throwing in more fuel if there's not enough air to supply it. That's why I suggested looking at your air filter to see if it's clogged or just plain dirty. Even in 200 miles. The next would be, yeah, sparkplugs are fouled, because they're not supplying the spark (the heat part of the triangle) that is needed to ignite the fuel and air. Pull your sparkplugs to see what they look like. If you have been leaving the choke on for long periods of time, yep, that'll foul your plugs! A minute and a half is all you need. Just ride the thing after that and use the throttle to keep the rpm's up at stoplights (1500rpm) until it's fully warmed up.
The motorcycle is no longer the hobby, the skill has become the hobby.

Power does not compare to skill.  What good is power without the skill to use it?

QuoteOriginally posted by Wintermute on BayAreaRidersForum.com
good judgement trumps good skills every time.

leo

Ahh, thanks scratch. Excellent explanation. I can visualize that very well.

My manual should be here tomorrow or the day after and I'll look at those things this weekend.

I've tried not to leave the choke on for long, but I think one time I accidently left it on for one block. But that was a few days before this happened.

Yes, I can add more throttle and that's what I was researching yesterday. I can add more throttle and it's fine. I read about a couple of people stalling, but all of theirs chokes worked properly. Their resolution seemed to be pointing to increasing the idle. Unfortunately I didn't see what my idle was when it was happening. Today I was going to drive it and see if in fact my idle rpm was low, but I didn't get far because I couldn't really keep the bike running and I didn't want to chance it going to work.

Kerry

Could it be that your choke has gotten stuck open, and you've adjusted the RPMs down to "normal" with it open?  If that's the case, then after the bike warms up it will die at idle ... guaranteed. :dunno:
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leo

No, I haven't played with the idle yet. But I think I have it figured out. Let me know if I'm right.

Quick story. I couldn't get the bike started and running this morning, so I even tried putting it in prime to see what would happen. Nothing, so I left to work to deal with later. After an incredible BS filled day I get home and my bike has been leaking gas. Huge puddle around it. I knew it was because I left the bike on Prime at least I think it is. So I turned it off and took off the fairings since they had gas on them.

Okay so far the right fairing has damage due to the gas eating away at the paint all day. It's all bubbly on the bottom edge. I'm hoping it doesn't spread anymore. It took me forever to find out where it was leaking but on the right side there are these three tubes. Two of them are opened as you see, but the third one is sealed, but the seal is broken. It's leaking gas from it. It has a little slit cut into it. I don't know if this was caused by leaving the bike in prime or it was already there and it was the cause of my issues. It's hard to see, but the tube that is covered, if you squeeze it or just move it gas comes out of the bottom of it in a slit.  Is this normal?


scratch

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Yes, the slit is supposed to be there to actually allow the fluids to seep past in a controlled manner, instead of just splashing your foot or rear tire with a large amount all at once.

Hope the bubbling doesn't spread, too, but be prepared. Wash it well.

Kerry - the choke is different on the '04+'s, I don't know if you have a picture of the choke where I could see where there might be any potential places or areas for the choke to hang up on, do you, please?

Edit: Okay, found the picture (thanks, Kerry!) here:
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=27802.msg295839#msg295839
It seems that it is possible for the end of the choke cable to come out of its housing on the front of the left caburetor, and 'hang' the choke open a little bit.
The motorcycle is no longer the hobby, the skill has become the hobby.

Power does not compare to skill.  What good is power without the skill to use it?

QuoteOriginally posted by Wintermute on BayAreaRidersForum.com
good judgement trumps good skills every time.

leo

Okay thanks again. :cheers: I'll have a look at that then. If not, off to the dealer it goes. I shouldn't have this much of a hassle with a brand new bike. I thought when I saw the slit, that I found the solution.

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