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Started by vfrocket, September 01, 2005, 05:23:49 AM

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ajgs500

Ooooo............. Pandy big words me impressed..... Suzuki Jah the next "Guest"????? Only time will tell.

RedShift

Looking at the bigger picture tends to concern me.  
  • Winter's coming.  Bike gets bagged and I have to walk or drive.  Not looking forward to that with current gas prices.

  • Agree with Cheryl -- this may be enough to scramble entrepreneurial activities for alternate energy.  From what I know, there's no quick answer.  Nothing found yet beats fossil fuels for safe, portable and high-density energy.

  • Even if an alternate fuel is identified, there's the infrastructure necessary to make it accessible.  Think about how long it took for the Cell Phone to become wide spread -- will take at least half that time to build an alternate fuel distribution network if we have one.

  • Think about what's made of plastic -- almost all of it made from petroleum.  Everything is going to cost more, not just the fluid in your tank.

  • Some major airline (or airlines) is bound to declare unrecoverable bankruptcy in the next 12 months unless there's a dramatic and unified increase in ticket prices.  Everyone that travels will loose.

  • North America is a big place -- covered primarily by asphalt and concrete paths called roads.  Everything moves by tractor-trailer.  It's all now twice as expensive to move it around as it was in March'05.

  • To end on a high note, there's lots of Coal to generate electricity, though harder to get out without making a mess or hurting people or the environment.[/list:u]It will take unified action to change things.  This is not a bump in the road.  We need to invent a new road.  We up for it?
2001 GS500E, stock except for SV650 Flyscreen, Case Guards, Headlight Modulator, PIAA Super White bulb & 17-Tooth Front Sprocket, BLUE, RED and GREEN LED Instrument and Dash Lights

Blingmasta

Quote from: Roadstergal
Quote from: BlingmastaSuzuki_Jah always seems to get flamed for whatever he does.

Well, since the primary thing he does is to be a homophobic jackass, this shouldn't surprise you.

Welp, I'm not going to defend him from that, doesn't mean that much to me anyway.


1995 GS500E
2001 Yamaha TTR225 - Sold
1994 Suzuki DR125
1995 Dodge Dakota 4X4 V8 on 31" All Terrains.

RedShift

I just had a beer and I feel more optimistic about the world.  Let's get to work and make a better tomorrow...  :thumb:
2001 GS500E, stock except for SV650 Flyscreen, Case Guards, Headlight Modulator, PIAA Super White bulb & 17-Tooth Front Sprocket, BLUE, RED and GREEN LED Instrument and Dash Lights

GSJames

A few more and it's a utopia  :thumb:

:cheers:
1989 GS500E (In my case, the E means Excluding parts)

gs2sv

QuoteSusuki_Jahwell
some of us actually need the cars we use. its not so practical to tow things with a 4 cylender car and a week transmission. its not practical to tow things with a motorcycle. some of us need big cars . I use cars to transport alot of my band equipment and on top of it. when did American become a nazi society. wait it NEVER DID> so that means we can drive whatever we want to . hey we pay for it no one said you had to. but again you cant automatically think the person driving the SUV is stupid becaue they have a v8. maybe the lady has 4 kids and they all play soccer or are in the band. maybe that suv is safer because it has awd and they have a boat they need to tow .
consumption is not a problem because there are many alternatives fuels out there

if you notice, my post read: "If driving around by yourself" that was meant to imply that not everyone needs a v8, most who drive suv type vehicles don't tow or haul anything other than themselves. and yes, over consumption is a problem, where is your head at? and lastly, yes we all do have to pay for others over consumption, over consumption leads to higher prices, which everyone has to pay. I don't think expecting others to use a resource we all depend on wisely is "nazi" behavior, just seems like common sense to me.
97 triumph t595, 02 gs500(wifes)

71buickfreak

I'm all for corn, I love corn. corn flakes, corn syrup corn gas, F-it, I'll live in a friggin corn cob house if I could get the ethynol to run my car! (ethanol is a corn-derived fuel which is actually a grain alcohol) Ethanol is already in use at most race tracks and is currently available in the form os E10 (10%ethanol, 90% gas) and E85 (you guessed it, 85% ethanol) I believe all cars built after 1998 can run E10 and I think E85. Why does nobody know? OIL LOBBYISTS! I think it is absolutely atrocious that we still depend on oil. This is coming from a republican in Oklahoma, a state literally built from oil money. I hate OIL, I think it is ruining everything. I am not a tree hugger, I drive a friggin muscle car for god sakes, I just don't like greed, and that is what OIL has spawned.

As far as being stupid for building a country on oil, which it doesn't have? That is an incorrect statement, as at the time of the industrial revolution, OIL was literally flowing out of the ground in the prairies of the Midwest such as Oklahoma and Texas, that's why it became the beast it did, it was abundant It didn't start drying up (its still a major commodity here) until much much later, then in the middle of the century w started getting foreign oil and the tree huggers have prevented us from drilling alaska and there my friends, is a VAST sea of oil which would eliminate our dependance on foreign oil and thus allow us to render the middlw east a big sheet glass and solve most of the world's problems.

I'm not saying I condone nuking them but hey, I don't much care for terrorist states.

71buickfreak

It's completely clean burning, manufactures clean, even gives us nutritious livestock feed and CO2 which can be compressed and sold! Helping farmers live and feed their families works for me! think about it, how do you feed the world, pay all the poor people, replenish the earth, and drive a car all at the same time? F*CKING GROW SOME CORN!

http://www.ethanol.org

Jace009gs

It's not so much that gas ia 3.19 here in  MD....What I fear is that the cost of transportation of good this holiday season and what not...Trucking companies are defently feeling the squeeze...They will sooner or later raise their rates to compensate for the higher price they are paying for fuel...Semi trucks =50gal a trip>>ching ching$$$ Did I mention that just about every plastic comes from oil? SO ya just about everything in your house/daily use it going to feel the ripple effect. Which is still in the future, but MAKE no misteak it is comming....

IMHO tho it's about time someone "Smaked US" upside the head here in American and said look oil/gas is running out time to blow the dust off that alt. fuel source idea you jotted down on a pizza box during that meeting.....I think that if the conditions continue that WHOLE Hydrogen super structure idea maybe be approaching much faster than expected.

Another suprise to me is that I have not read about any boycotts at pumps yet......???? If USA can substain transportation on a 30-40% reduction in oil usage over what it is right now then OPEC is pretty much going to have to rethink/restructure their rates.

HONESTLY the days of $1.00 a gallon will never happen again
the day of $2.00 a gallon are just about gone into the history books and I'm willing to bet that $3.00 a gallon is going to stick around for a few months then Free Market will make it drop a bit and keep it in the mid 2.50 a gallon range. The range of gas over the years [2000-present] is the ripple effect from the SUV craze. Then tac on a little more for the refineries and ya that should put you near the $3 range for a gallon of gas....That's what you pay for a gallon of milk, a lousy $3  :roll:

While i'm on a roll someone condem the Internal Combustion motor that can peak at 57% efficency.....IF and I do mean a big IF you can get the Exhaust tempeatures up to 400ish *F then average Joe's transportation is going to get a 12% boost in MPG. That's what makes diesels so much better than gasoline engines in terms of fuel consumption. Complications are tho that head gaskets start melting, cheap-o exhaust pipes [OEM stockers] can begin to warp and tweak and all those wires, hoses and the paint on the hood begin to deteriorate from the heat.
Motorcycle's are God's greatest creation; turning gas into noise with acceleration & power as side effects

Traveler

IF:
*Nine of the 10 highest temperatures ever recorded occurred in the last 14 years.
*Incidence of Hurricanes/typhoons increased threefold.
*The glaciers are ALL ( yes, even Calafata) in retreat and speeding up.
Then I posit there must be a graph somewhere which can be overlaid onto the resurgence of overweight SUVs and match the curves exactly. :mrgreen:
We don't really know what we're doing and even when we do, it doesn't seem to help. Bono

gs500fromnb

I just calculated ours to be about 4.53$USD/US gallon and I gave the us dollar a better number that its been the last few weeks cause with the current buying rate for canadian banks (1.17) it would equal 4.83$/Gallon, USD and USGallons.

Its expensive... yet Europe still has it alot more expensive. I'll still be out there riding my heart out, and not be shy to go out in my car... i'll just waste less money on absolute junk like Mcd's and ciggs and boose.
Danny

2003 Gs500

Narcissus

You must have tons of reserves over there in NB (Nova Scotian here) where you can get some pleasently cheap fuel. On the res. nearest me its $1.06/L compaired to $1.17 at the PetroCan. It doesn't make much of a difference when I fill up the GS, maybe enough to buy a chocolate bar, but in my father's car it would make a fair difference.
04' GS500

porsche4786

Quote from: BLITZMW77
and someone explain to me why oil companies are making record profits?[/quote]

That is simple to answer. Bush and Cheney are tied to big oil. The higher the gas prices the more money they make. Expecially Cheney. Ever notice how much work Halliburton is getting in Iraq? Bush could have opend the reserves right away and put a cap on fuel prices but chose not to. It is funny how the gas that has been sitting in ground keeps going up. I can understand the new batch costing more but come on people.[/quote]

It's called supply and demand. If our prices go up at work selling electrical equipment then we raise the price on the stock we already have even though we payed less for it. Everybody does that. It's not Bush and cheney, they are not the ones marking it up.
-Kevin
2005 GS500F (sold), 1989 RX-7, 2006 GSXR 600

gs500fromnb

Quote from: NarcissusYou must have tons of reserves over there in NB (Nova Scotian here) where you can get some pleasently cheap fuel. On the res. nearest me its $1.06/L compaired to $1.17 at the PetroCan. It doesn't make much of a difference when I fill up the GS, maybe enough to buy a chocolate bar, but in my father's car it would make a fair difference.

yeah its 1.39$/L for regular and 1.46$/L for supreme in Moncton.. I drive a Saturn for my car and its getting expensive lol especially when I'm allready paying more for insurance than for the car.. lol.. being 19 sucks!
Danny

2003 Gs500

Narcissus

How much is yuor GS insurance?
04' GS500

gs500fromnb

Quote from: NarcissusHow much is yuor GS insurance?

GS is only about 700 bux for plpd..

car insurance is well over 3600$... and thats a staff price since I work for RBC, normally it would be 4200+$ ... 19yo No tickets, ONE accident... I wont complain, I quoted after my accident at 16yo and it was 8400$ a year :roll:
Danny

2003 Gs500

porsche4786

$37 a month, But I just pay the yearly amount. and it's full coverage.
-Kevin
2005 GS500F (sold), 1989 RX-7, 2006 GSXR 600

porsche4786

Quote from: gs500fromnb
Quote from: NarcissusHow much is yuor GS insurance?

GS is only about 700 bux for plpd..

car insurance is well over 3600$... and thats a staff price since I work for RBC, normally it would be 4200+$ ... 19yo No tickets, ONE accident... I wont complain, I quoted after my accident at 16yo and it was 8400$ a year :roll:

What the hell do you drive? I'm only 19 with no tickets and my car insurance isn't even over $1000 a year. that's driving a mazda rx-7 with full coverage.
-Kevin
2005 GS500F (sold), 1989 RX-7, 2006 GSXR 600

Narcissus

Whoa, full coverage for my GS is damn near $1000 annually, although I am 2 years younger.
04' GS500

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I'm not saying I condone nuking them but hey, I don't much care for terrorist states.

With stupid comments like that we don't need robertson.
Peace

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