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rear brake squeak

Started by mountindewGS, September 08, 2005, 08:03:36 PM

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mountindewGS

Does anyone else's rear brake squeak?

Aragon


mountindewGS

Is there anything to do to fix it?

gazingwa

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davipu

lock it up a few times and it wont squeek anymore

mountindewGS


davipu

no like going down the road doing 60 stomp on it and kick the bike out sideways. do that a couple times and it won't squeek anymore.

mountindewGS


vanmonkeee

all lies, ive locked 'er up a few times now, been going harder on it lately to get rid of it.  '05 and its getting kind of annoying.

davipu

ok, the joke was that after you highside then it won't squeek anymore, but nobody got it. try replacing the pads with some ebc sintered ones. some bikes squeek some don't, you got a squeeker.

Budrick320

Yeah i get the squeek about 1 out of every 10 times. I have an 05 with 1450 miles on it. It did it frequently in the begining when I first got it, but it is going away slowly. It seems to come on more frequently when just starting out riding also.
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cobalt135

I have an 05 with a little over 4,000 miles and it has always squealed.  I hardly ever use it because of this.  Mine does it 9 out of 10 times :x   Brakes hot or cold.  Bout to try some different pads myself...
Craig

'05 GS500F sold to friend

2006 SV1000S

phire

Quote from: vanmonkeeeall lies, ive locked 'er up a few times now, been going harder on it lately to get rid of it.  '05 and its getting kind of annoying.

Oh god yes, the SQUEAK! 1,100 miles on my 05 so far (in a little less than a months time, too!) and the squeak is STILL there. It's kinda emberassing when you roll up next to a hot chick and the only reason she looks over is because she can hear the INSANELY LOUD REEEEEEEEEEEEE.  :oops: I've jammed the rear brake so much and it doesn't go away. I use the shaZam! out of it in hopes that it wears it down enough and stops squeaking... No go. I use the rear brake 90% of the time when I need to brake. Front brake is only used when I'm below 5mph coming to a stop or I need to brake HARD, like for some jackass in front of me (or the skid stop test at the DMV.)
Joshua
2005 GS500F

werase643

mine never squeaks...
then again, I never use it
want Iain's money to support my butt in kens shop

jeast

synthetic brake grease on the back of the pads and the two pins that hold the brake pads.
2004 gs500f

Badger

Quote from: phireI use the rear brake 90% of the time when I need to brake. Front brake is only used when I'm below 5mph coming to a stop or I need to brake HARD, like for some jackass in front of me (or the skid stop test at the DMV.)
Are you saying that you use the rear brake exclusively?  Without the front brake?  :?  

You're kidding, right?

gsJack

I think the rear wheel alignment is a big part of the rear brake squeak problem.  See  recent thread http://www.gstwins.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=21635

Different linings also affect it, but most other solutions like using brake harder or lubing brake parts are temporary at best.

Been fighting this problem for years on old Honda front discs after 30k miles and on GS500 rear discs from new on.  It's not a new issue on bikes.

flyingbeagle71

My '04 used to squeak like crazy, but then I started using my front brake for most of the braking.  It really helps a ton, plus you can actually stop when you want to.  They still squeak when I use them too much, but that just lets me know to back off the rear brake and apply more front brake.  :dunno:
GS500F in BLUE because that's the COOLEST color!

phire

Quote from: Badger
Quote from: phireI use the rear brake 90% of the time when I need to brake. Front brake is only used when I'm below 5mph coming to a stop or I need to brake HARD, like for some jackass in front of me (or the skid stop test at the DMV.)
Are you saying that you use the rear brake exclusively?  Without the front brake?  :?  

You're kidding, right?

No, not exclusively, but when it's possible that I can use it exclusively I do in hopes that I wear it down enough to stop the squeel. It's gotten slightly better but I just want the squeel to go away. For example though, if I need to slow down just a smidge, I apply the rear brake. If I need to slow down a slot like say coming to a stop, I apply both the rear and front brakes as evenly as possible. Coming off the interstate I use the engine for braking mostly until I'm down to a speed that the rear brake can safely take over. So I do use the rear more, but only in a futile attempt to kill the squeak!
Joshua
2005 GS500F

Badger

Quote from: phire
Quote from: Badger
Quote from: phireI use the rear brake 90% of the time when I need to brake. Front brake is only used when I'm below 5mph coming to a stop or I need to brake HARD, like for some jackass in front of me (or the skid stop test at the DMV.)
Are you saying that you use the rear brake exclusively?  Without the front brake?  :?  

You're kidding, right?

No, not exclusively, but when it's possible that I can use it exclusively I do in hopes that I wear it down enough to stop the squeel.
I look at the squeal as a warning...it reminds me that I'm on the rear brake.  :dunno:  

I'm sure you're aware of this, but I'll say it anyway...

Whenever the motorcycle is decelerating, weight shifts to the front...this is physics, and it's unavoidable.  This lightens the rear wheel and removes traction.  Reduced traction on the rear makes it that much easier for the rear to lock up, since as soon as you break traction it takes very little brake pressure to stop the rotation of the rear wheel.  In fact, the front brakes take advantage of the weight shift...if you want to stop hard you can apply enough brake to load the front, compress the front forks, and increase traction in the front, allowing you to brake harder there (it also allows you to turn quicker, but that's a different discussion).  The overwhelming majority of your stopping power comes from the front.

Take my advice for what it's worth (probably not much), but if you're going to use the rear brake a lot, I recommend practicing locking up the rear brakes in relatively safe environments (i.e., parking lot at relatively low speeds travelling in a straight line).  I'm not trying to criticize...you probably already do this, and chances are you have a lot more experience than I do.  

I spent most of last Sunday working on hard deceleration, and more than a few times got the rear locked up.  My conclusion was that it's shockingly easy to inadvertently let that happen.  It's very, very disconcerting if you're not prepared for it (even if you are), doubly so if you need to work the rear wheel back straight when it starts to slide out sideways.  I've also found that it's more difficult to gauge the pressure on the rear than it is for the fronts, and if you're braking while downshifting I'd think there's increased risk of breaking traction on the rear (since the rear might stutter if you don't hit the shift right).

Sorry if this sounds preachy...that's not my intent, but everything I've read or been told has advised against excessive use of the rear brakes on motorcycles...sportbikes specifically because of the weight dynamics.

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