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How I Took the MSF and Learned To Love the Figure-8 (looong)

Started by aaronstj, September 12, 2005, 10:54:39 PM

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aaronstj

1992 Blue Monday, Wileyco, lunchbox, 150/40/3/1, Srinath bars, progressives, fenderectomy

Borak: How come Ogg use one spear, Borak need three?
Ogg: Not spear, caveman.

TheGoodGuy

good read.. me love those tiny 125's.. they are so awesome.. makes you feel like the king of the road.
'01 GS500. Mods: Katana Shock, Progessive Springs, BobB's V&H  Advancer Clone, JeffD's LED tail lights & LED licence plate bolt running lights, flanders superbike bars, magnet under the bike. Recent mods: Rejet with 20/62.5/145, 3 shims on needle, K&N Lunch box.

pandy

Congrats on passing the MSF!! EXCELLENT write up!! You're a very talented writer!! Sound like a flock of angry weed wackers!  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Glad you did so well in the MSF, and don't let a good bike go by!!!!!!!!


:thumb:  :thumb:  :thumb:
'06 SV650s (1 past Gixxer; 3 past GS500s)
I get blamed for EVERYTHING around here!
:woohoo:

aaronstj

Quote from: pandyEXCELLENT write up!! You're a very talented writer!! Sound like a flock of angry weed wackers!  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Thanks.  That means a lot to me.  I like to write, but I don't get a chance to do much of it.  So I have to take it out on motorcycle forums.  

QuoteGlad you did so well in the MSF, and don't let a good bike go by!!!!!!!!
I'll try not to, but it'll be a couple of month before I can seriously start looking.  So far there's been a couple decent good looking GSs a month in the Seattle area, so I don't think it'll be too hard to find one.  I'm pretty set on the GS, though, none of this wishy washy "I'll take a Ninja 500, too, I guess."  So keep your fingers crossed for me.  :)
1992 Blue Monday, Wileyco, lunchbox, 150/40/3/1, Srinath bars, progressives, fenderectomy

Borak: How come Ogg use one spear, Borak need three?
Ogg: Not spear, caveman.

GSJames

Nice write up!  Brought me back to my safety course, two years ago.

TCLOCS - we never learned that one.

FINEC for us was FINECC - and that went (fuel, ignition, neutral, engine kill switch, choke, (and in case you screwed up the neutral part) clutch)  :lol:

I thought your figure 8 part was funny.  It sounds like a ring where people go head to head like tournament fighters or something, haha.  For us, they set up a bunch of pylons for various things (figure 8's, circles, slaloms, etc) and it was more like an amusement park (you could do whatever activity you wanted)

Those are some powerful weedwhackers you were dealing with.  The course I took, at Sheridan college here, had 75cc and 125cc dirtbikes, if I remember correctly.

My instructor described me as being a "sensible" rider when graduating me.   :mrgreen:
1989 GS500E (In my case, the E means Excluding parts)

GSJames

Oh, and of course, you gotta miss kicking that manual starter 80 times  :lol:
1989 GS500E (In my case, the E means Excluding parts)

John Bates

Entertaining and informative.  A great read!
Thanks :lol:
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2002 Harley Sportster XLH883 with V&H Straight Shots
Prior owner of 1992 GS500E stock
Fairfield County, OH
USA

oppy00

Definately brought back memories...Ah the memories. :lol:
I was laughing out loud a couple times, and all the girls here at work kept staring at me (maybe that's cause I'm adorable, though :bs:)  

I especially liked the part about flying, feeling like Rossi, but only going 15mph.

By the way extra housework is definately a good trade-off for a bike.  Now what you need to do (after getting a bike) is get wifey to take the course, you could take it again if you want, it is kinda fun after all.  Then she'll be begging you for housework, so she can get a bike.  :thumb:
Black '00  GS500E 
Silver '02 Bandit 1200S

Finally got a good job.  Hooray me!!!

I still love beer.  Hooray me!!!

pandy

Quote from: aaronstjI like to write, but I don't get a chance to do much of it.  So I have to take it out on motorcycle forums.  


Well, you should write more! Use that talent more!!!!!  Your write-up was so darned good! I was LoL'ing, too! So, of course, I had to read parts out loud to my sweetheart, who was looking at me funny because I seemed to be enjoying my computer screen so much! ;)

Quote from: aaronstjI'm pretty set on the GS...  So keep your fingers crossed for me.  :)

Couldn't make a better choice! Fingers and toes are crossed! And, as someone else said, try to get your wife to take the MSF and fall in love with moto'ing, too!!!!  :thumb:
'06 SV650s (1 past Gixxer; 3 past GS500s)
I get blamed for EVERYTHING around here!
:woohoo:

dbNnc

Looking down at the speedo and seeing I was doing 20 mph and that I'd covered 12 miles in two days...what a great feeling!  

As for the figure-8 box, I found that doing it in second gear and using just the clutch to speed up and slow down and not the throttle or brake made the test a lot easier. I did the figure-8 with plenty of room to spare.

NiceGuysFinishLast

Great write up, got me all excited for my MSF course... which will be nowhere in the near future... damn! oh well, guess I'll just sit back and enjoy my  :cheers:
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aaronstj

Quote from: GSJamesTCLOCS - we never learned that one.

FINEC for us was FINECC - and that went (fuel, ignition, neutral, engine kill switch, choke, (and in case you screwed up the neutral part) clutch)  :lol:
TCLOCS is for your preride check.  Our C was for a comination choke and clutch, so I guess ours was really a FINECC too, but the instructor just pronounced it fine-see.

Quote from: GSJamesI thought your figure 8 part was funny.  It sounds like a ring where people go head to head like tournament fighters or something, haha.  For us, they set up a bunch of pylons for various things (figure 8's, circles, slaloms, etc) and it was more like an amusement park (you could do whatever activity you wanted)
Yeah, it was kinda like gladiators at he coliseum. :)  We all lined up, and Bruce ordered the results sheets by the line, so he could just check off the grades one my one.  First we did the figure eight box and the swerve in one go.  Coming out of the swerve, we got in line for the braking, and coming out of braking we got in line for the cornering.  Seemed like a pretty efficient system.
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Quote from: dbNncAs for the figure-8 box, I found that doing it in second gear and using just the clutch to speed up and slow down and not the throttle or brake made the test a lot easier. I did the figure-8 with plenty of room to spare.
The speed wasn't a huge deal for me - I kept it in second gear and used the throttle, since my clutch didn't seem to have much friction zone.  The biggest problem really was trusting the bike and leaning it way over under your body at such low speeds.



As for the people suggesting I get my wife to ride, she's game, but also rediculously short, and worried she wouldn't fit on a bike.  She's 4'10" or so (to my 6'4", I know).  Maybe I could stick her on a kid's dirt bike.  :mrgreen:
1992 Blue Monday, Wileyco, lunchbox, 150/40/3/1, Srinath bars, progressives, fenderectomy

Borak: How come Ogg use one spear, Borak need three?
Ogg: Not spear, caveman.

pandy

Quote from: aaronstjAs for the people suggesting I get my wife to ride, she's game, but also rediculously short, and worried she wouldn't fit on a bike.  She's 4'10" or so (to my 6'4", I know).  Maybe I could stick her on a kid's dirt bike.  :mrgreen:

Some good platform boots, and she'd be able to reach the ground on a GS! ;)
'06 SV650s (1 past Gixxer; 3 past GS500s)
I get blamed for EVERYTHING around here!
:woohoo:

Caffeine

Sounds almost exactly like my own MSF experience, except we all had GZ250's and one Buell Blast at our disposal.   I liked the little Honda, and if I never wanted to go above 60 MPH, I would have one in a heartbeat.

We were all warned to wear protective clothing (long pants, long sleeve shirts, gloves) but 2 of the girls came dressed in really really thin fabric blouses with sleeves that went just to the elbows...and each one of them fell at some point.  One girl skinned her forearm really bad, another ripped her thin nylon blouse when she fell.   One girl came properly dressed, and her mom hung around a while (quietly in the background).  Turns out her parents were German and were avid bikers, and they wanted their daughter to take the MSF before they let her ride the Ninja 250 they bought for her.  (Pretty cool parents!)

One of the guys in my class had his Harley on order, and was taking the MSF the same week his bike was supposed to arrive at the dealership.  I thought a Harley would be a bad beginner bike, but that was his choice.  :dunno:

A woman in my class already had a Harley at home waiting for her to finish the course.   Not that I was an expert, but I could do everything (except the figure-eight) very well by the time we finished.   She could still barely get the bike going without stalling, and could barely corner or do a panic-stop.  She should DEFINITELY not have had a Harley as a first bike!  :nono:

I took my MSF card to DMV and was out the door with my Motorcycle license in less than 10 minutes!   :thumb:
On those days when life is a little too much and nothing seems to be going right, I pause for a moment to ponder the wise last words of my grandfather:  "I wonder where the mother bear is?"

aaronstj

Quote from: CaffeineWe were all warned to wear protective clothing (long pants, long sleeve shirts, gloves) but 2 of the girls came dressed in really really thin fabric blouses with sleeves that went just to the elbows...and each one of them fell at some point.  One girl skinned her forearm really bad, another ripped her thin nylon blouse when she fell.
Ouch.  Luckily, no one fell in our class dropped a bike.  There were a couple of girls who started out pretty shake, but but the end of the course, everyone was pretty solid.

Our instructor asked everyone what kind of bike they planned on getting the first day, and the few people that had answers didn't say anything ridiculous.  And he seemed to think the GS500 was a good choice.
1992 Blue Monday, Wileyco, lunchbox, 150/40/3/1, Srinath bars, progressives, fenderectomy

Borak: How come Ogg use one spear, Borak need three?
Ogg: Not spear, caveman.

scratch

Woohoo, excellent write up! Congratulations! I hope you become a motojournalist for Motorcyclist, or some other magazine.  That way you get to test every bike that comes out!
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Power does not compare to skill.  What good is power without the skill to use it?

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good judgement trumps good skills every time.

Badger

In my MSF class we had one person who was asked to leave the first range day, one that opted to leave the second day, and three that didn't pass the eval.  The one who was asked to leave never quite got the hang of the clutch, and had a briefly terrifying out-of-control moment that nearly ended up in the fence.  The one that left opted for private lessons, and I think she was very self conscious about being slower or less capable than the rest of the group.  The three that didn't pass stayed for the afternoon to retake the evaluation.  Ironically, the person who seemed most nervous in the beginning ultimately performed the best, while others (including myself) seemed to suffer from brain cramps or clipboard-induced performance anxiety.

When it came to the corner (no problem, right?) I shifted into second, rolled the throttle and got nothing but noise (neutral).  I kicked it up again (this time with *feeling*) and rolled on the throttle...this time I felt it drop out of gear into neutral.  Now flustered and entering the corner going too slow, I got it into gear rolled on the throttle aggressively, leaned over and crossed the inside line.  In hindsight I'm sure I was fixating on the cone that marked the inside of the turn, and just like they said, I headed straight for it.  5 points for going too slow, 10 points for crossing the line.  Luckily, that was the only thing I screwed up, so I still passed.  I suppose it was a good learning experience, but I would have preferred it to happen during the exercise, rather than the evaluation.

calamari

great paper. if we had essays like this in my writing class, i would ace it.

good memories (only a few months since I took the MSF).
Caturday yet?

RVertigo

Quote from: aaronstjRG, you're always selling your GSs.  Keep me in mind, will ya?
:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

NICE ONE!!!

Roadstergal

Hey, you took it at the same place as I did - and with the same instructor!  I love Bruce.

Except that you didn't take the MSF.  WA doesn't have one.  You took the WA Motorcycle Safety Course, subcontracted to the Motorcycle Safety Company.

No GSs for sale this week.  But does your wife want a nice leather jacket?  A pair of SMX-3 in red?  I have a spare set of Fieldsheer textile pants, too.   :roll:



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