i whouldn't even insult crappy gear by including JR crap in that notion.  
other than their race suits which have to be tested, the rest is made in a sweatshop in Korea IIRC. to standards which even nike whould be appalled at. the shaZam! is known to fall apart, have armor failures, zipper failures, among other assorted problems, you will be lucky to get a year out of the stuff.

Quote from: RVertigoWould you rather see them wearing Daisy Dukes and a tube top?

A pic showing off manufacturer's clothing is supposed to show ideal gear-up - because it can.  This doesn't.  Poseur gear just leads to folk spending money on gear that doesn't protect.  Certainly, jeans don't cut it.  But if you're going to shell out for leather pants, I'd far rather have a selection of useful leather pants available.  With this poseurwear, some hetero says "Oh, honey, you'd look so cute in that!" and then they use their resources on pricy fashionwear, rather than useful moto gear.
Road rash isn't sexy.  Yuo can google the pics to prove it.

Honestly, I don't think those pante would be much better than jeans in a crash.  Once they ride up - and they'd ride up in less than a second - it's bare skin on asphalt.

And no matter how much spray they used, those coiffes aren't Snell-rated.

You look at Dainese, and they have someone actually dressed for riding:



Now, is that so difficult?

There are magazines for ultra-soft-core porn already.  I know this is a radical thought, but motorcycle magazines should be about... motorcycling.

Quote from: RoadstergalYou look at Dainese, and they have someone actually dressed for riding:

Now, is that so difficult?

That just makes it harder for us to score.  




Yes, let me say it before you do: Road rash makes it harder to score. I know, RGal, I know.





Speaking of road rash, and of scoring, anyone remember this one? Is that a Gixxer 750 in black?




Dave  

QuoteYou look at Dainese, and they have someone actually dressed for riding

Bzzzzt... no gloves.

Quote from: RoadstergalAnd no matter how much spray they used, those coiffes aren't Snell-rated.

I've seen tons of ads where they're showing off a jacket and the guy has nothing else on...  I don't think the lack of helmets in the ad has anything to do with the Poseur gear pants.

And...  Yeah...  I've seen road-rash.  All I'm saying is that those Poseur gear pants are better than the crap I ride in. :dunno:

I'd rather see someone in crappy gear than no gear...  Frankly, there are people out there that refuse to wear gear 'cause it doesn't have the look they want...  Better to offer something that 20% that they'll wear than something that's 100% that they won't wear.

Quote from: thirdman

QuoteYou look at Dainese, and they have someone actually dressed for riding

Bzzzzt... no gloves.

True, but I put mine on the bike seat when I'm getting off of the bike for a sec...




I assumed they're on the R1.

I agree with RG:  those pants are stupid, especially coupled with the high heel boots.  That crap is designed for back seat ornaments, not riders.  And even then it's more form than function.

Dainese is hard to find to try on.  Even some of Alpinestars girls stuff is sorta on the tacky side (satin finish puffy type jackets), but i think they have some good female suits.

Quote from: 2005-GS500-PDXSpeaking of road rash, and of scoring, anyone remember this one? Is that a Gixxer 750 in black?

No, that's an '90's Yamaha FZR600. The other bike is an '88 Ducati 851 (with the mirrors integrated with the turnsignals; also, note it is shod with Dunlop K591's). The riders of both bikes is the same guy who posed for them. He is a member of BayAreaRidersForum.com where I frequent when this website has problems.

Quote from: junoDainese is hard to find to try on.

For locals, Ducati Seattle has a really good stock of their gear.  They had every size of Yoyo but the 44 they just sold, as well as a full selection of back protectors and two-piece gear for women.  Oh, and really nice gloves.  Pricy, but I think it's worth patronizing a place like that.

Quote from: RVertigo..I'd rather see someone in crappy gear than no gear...  

I agree with RVertigo on this 100%.

Not only that, but there are certain marketing realities we must face as consumers. One of the pillars of marketing: SEX SELLS. So obviously, sexy women in sexy gear are going to sell more product. The companies that produce and market these - and anything else - are primarily concerned with SELLING first, and your protection comes SECOND (if at all!). It is up to the consumer to read reviews, do research, etc., on the utility of the product. The seller just says "Hey, buy me! Buy me!".

And despite what you might think RG, not everyone is interested in or participates in track riding. Some of these girls that buy them are mostly for looks when they are riding on the back of their boyfriend's CBR or whatever.    Like RVertigo says, atleast they have something on. And sometimes, not everyone has the money to go out and buy expensive leathers - if you rode one or two weekends a month, you wouldn't either unless you were financially well off. Yes, it only takes one crash - but something is still better than nothing.

BTW - The girls in the first ad are cuter than the one in the second ad.  :lol:  

Quote from: PhaedrusOne of the pillars of marketing: SEX SELLS. So obviously, sexy women in sexy gear are going to sell more product.

To who? To women?

Quote from: thirdman

QuoteYou look at Dainese, and they have someone actually dressed for riding

Bzzzzt... no gloves.

They're in her helmet.

Quote from: scratch

Quote from: PhaedrusOne of the pillars of marketing: SEX SELLS. So obviously, sexy women in sexy gear are going to sell more product.

To who? To women?

To the boyfriends of said women.

Quote from: scratch

Quote from: PhaedrusOne of the pillars of marketing: SEX SELLS. So obviously, sexy women in sexy gear are going to sell more product.

To who? To women?

Ig-zactly.  If they're selling gear to women, sell it to women, not to their boyfriends by proxy.

I have to disagree that shaZam! gear is better than no gear.  If someone is facing two choices - fashionable street clothes or real gear - they can bow to necessity and wear real gear while they're on the bike.  If they're faced with fashionable street clothes, poseur gear, and real gear, they might choose the middle, even if it offers little to no more protection than street clothes - buying into the illusion that it's real gear.  Or the SO can pressure the buyer into the middle.

Certainly, the customer is at fault for buying into that illusion.  But the manufacturer is also at fault for perpetuating it.  And for giving us such limited "real gear" options so that they can peddle softcore to horny boys.

marketing realities? Ha. buy from a company that has built a reputation for quality, not from a company that feeds you crap and expects it to suffice.

To be clear, I am all for sexy men and sexy women.  But in the right context.  On bike - real gear.  Off of the bike - little frilly things.

I wouldn't mind having one of those girls wax my carrot.

Quote from: PhaedrusAnd despite what you might think RG, not everyone is interested in or participates in track riding. Some of these girls that buy them are mostly for looks when they are riding on the back of their boyfriend's CBR or whatever.

It doesn't hurt any less to crash at 70 from the back of a bike than from the rider's seat.  And street asphalt hurts no less than track asphalt.

Quote from: PhaedrusAnd sometimes, not everyone has the money to go out and buy expensive leathers

If you have the money for that leather junk, you have money for real gear.

Edit - I mean, if you get Cordura if leather is too expensive, that's one thing.  But if you're going to shell out for leather... and then you shell out for badly made (from a motorcycling/protective standpoint) leather... that's a big WTF?

This 'gear' is like lace condoms.  Sure, lace is pretty.  But there's a function here that needs to take priority.

you call your bike, "your carrot" ?