Quote from: NightRyderAccelerate through the turn! Go faster! Don't brake! um, lets see, what else did they say.... oh, Push harder!

haha, like the Daft Punk song, Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger! well, maybe not stronger unless you think looking where you want to go makes you stronger...  

bah! speaking of daft punk...my friend made this guitar....
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Quote from: dgyverDon't fall down.

D'oh!  I've been doing it all wrong.

i guess i have been doing it all wrong as well.  :lol:  :lol:
Jokes aside; Slow, Look, Press, and Roll.  Slow more than you think you have to and you will get the hang of it, just practice good form.

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Jokes aside; Slow, Look, Press, and Roll.  Slow more than you think you have to and you will get the hang of it, just practice good form.

Pretty soon you'll be pressing and rolling more than you thought you could.

Quote from: porsche4786Just out of curiosity, can you scrape a knee on the gs?

Dude, i've seen pictures of guys scraping knees on goldwings!   But before you go out and start trying it, try to remember 3 things:

1 - The GS500 has considerably skinnier tires than most street bikes (stock is 130).  Less contact surface with the road = be more careful

2 - YOUR tires aren't race tires (unless you have race takeoffs... but finding a 130 or 140 race takeoff probably involves a bit of searching around).  This means that they are a lot less sticky and will lowside much more easily if you push them too far.

3. the guys who do drag knees are in full leathers with plastic pucks on their joints... and just about everything on their races bikes are considered disposable (esp if they have good sponsors).

So before you start hanging off the bike when making left turns around the local highway on/off-ramps... remember..., dont' be like this guy:



Even though he's devilishly handsome (and single too, ladies!), what he's doing isn't safe!

I've discovered that if someone is having trouble turning on a motorcycle, they should jump on a bicycle for an hour or two and do some riding around in one of those.

Turning on a m/c is exacty the same as turning on a bicycle.  The only difference is where the power is coming from.  Most beginners get hung up on the "countersteering" concept.

"why turn the bars left to go right above semi high speeds???"
"why turn the bars right to go right during low speeds???"

Just go back to the basics with a bicycle...  That helps.

Quote from: porsche4786Just out of curiosity, can you scrape a knee on the gs?

Yeah, I scraped my knee a couple of weeks ago when I had a little get off.  

It's definitely possible to scrape knee on a GS. :lol:

Quote from: annguyen1981"why turn the bars left to go right above semi high speeds???"
"why turn the bars right to go right during low speeds???"

I've talked to a few MSF instructors, and my impression is that many would prefer to never mention countersteering until -after- people have actually done it.  I tend to agree.  Talking about it beforehand just confuses people becuase it sounds wrong and the analytic part of their brain resists...but put them on a bicycle or motorcycle and they do it naturally.

That's not to say they shouldn't discuss countersteering, but waiting until after people have experienced it allows them to drill the "push harder to turn harder" concept--since that isn't so natural--and make control actions conscious rather than inherent (which in turn leads to precision).

Quote from: TarzanBoy2 - YOUR tires aren't race tires (unless you have race takeoffs... but finding a 130 or 140 race takeoff probably involves a bit of searching around).  This means that they are a lot less sticky and will lowside much more easily if you push them too far.

+1

That's how I crashed my '92. Lowsided after pushing it too far (I think). But still. Even if I didn't he's very right. Be wary!

Don't downshift in the middle of a turn. It can cause your rear tire to lose traction and jump sideways.

Go slow through unfamiliar turns or turns with sand on the pavement. On my commute I have to turn onto two roads dump trucks use to get to and from construction sites. So if you see a construction site or dump trucks, assume the road is sandy, dirty or muddy.

whoa!, never said I was going to go out and try to scrape my knee. was just wondering because it surprising how sharp you can turn. I don't have full leathers with the pads on the knees, my stuff is nylon with padding, not exactly made for the track.

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Quote from: porsche4786Just out of curiosity, can you scrape a knee on the gs?

Dude, i've seen pictures of guys scraping knees on goldwings!   But before you go out and start trying it, try to remember 3 things:

1 - The GS500 has considerably skinnier tires than most street bikes (stock is 130).  Less contact surface with the road = be more careful

2 - YOUR tires aren't race tires (unless you have race takeoffs... but finding a 130 or 140 race takeoff probably involves a bit of searching around).  This means that they are a lot less sticky and will lowside much more easily if you push them too far.

3. the guys who do drag knees are in full leathers with plastic pucks on their joints... and just about everything on their races bikes are considered disposable (esp if they have good sponsors).

So before you start hanging off the bike when making left turns around the local highway on/off-ramps... remember..., dont' be like this guy:

Go to www.killboy.com and check out those pics those guys and gals do some major turning but it not always good.

1. Slow to a safe speed with both brakes before entering the turn

2. Look all the way through the turn, keeping head and eyes up

3. Press on the right handlebar to turn right, the left handlebar to turn left

4. Roll on the throttle through the turn - steady - not too hard

Take the MSF Basic Rider Course ASAP

Quote from: jdmbuiltanyone have tips when making a turn?

Once I asked my flight instructor:  Do you have any tips on landing?  I got: "Sure: wheels first.  Don't crash."  Good advice...but not helpful.

I had to ask, "I'm landing long, floating too much, I think I'm too fast, and I'm consistently landing left of the centerline...how can I better manage my speed on final and track down the centerline better?"  That was followed by 2 hours of touch & goes and very helpful analysis, suggestions, exercises, and advice...followed by smoother landings.

I suspect this is the same kind of thread.  Perhaps if you could specify what you're having trouble with or be more specific about what you'd like advice on you might get some helpful replies.  There are lots of details involved with cornering from control inputs, lean angle, body position, weight distribution, throttle usage, braking, picking the right path, traction management, you name it.  The complexity and precision required increase with velocity.

I suggest you try something like one of these:
"I'm running wide in turns, but I don't think I'm going too fast...what could be causing this?"

"The bike feels unstable when doing low-speed turns...How do I keep it from falling to the inside of the turn."

"The rear wheel locked up in a hard corner and threw me 50 feet over the bike, I'm in traction now and I'm wondering what I did wrong."

"I was showing off my skills dragging a knee and fell off the bike...my cargo shorts ripped, I lost one flip-flop, and my T-shirt has been ground into what little remaining flesh I have...am I an idiot?"

Quote from: Badger"I was showing off my skills dragging a knee and fell off the bike...my cargo shorts ripped, I lost one flip-flop, and my T-shirt has been ground into what little remaining flesh I have...am I an idiot?"

:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  Mad skillz.

Quote from: Badger"The rear wheel locked up in a hard corner and threw me 50 feet over the bike, I'm in traction now and I'm wondering what I did wrong."

"I was showing off my skills dragging a knee and fell off the bike...my cargo shorts ripped, I lost one flip-flop, and my T-shirt has been ground into what little remaining flesh I have...am I an idiot?"

Badger rules!!!  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol: