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More issues with the pain in the rear. Carbs?

Started by Roadstergal, October 31, 2005, 12:26:48 AM

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Roadstergal

So, Dave came up and poked around it some, and he's baffled, too.  It'll start, but it doesn't respond well to throttle and dies almost immediately.  Dave thought it was too rich, so we pulled the air filter.  It ran a touch longer before dying, methinks.  It looks like it's backfiring from the carbs - you get a little *pff* of a pop and the carbs jerk.

Specs...

'91 GS500
Stock airbox
Stock filter
Wileyco, unrestricted
Mains - up one size

It was running before with K&N, exhaust, many exhaust leaks, and 150 mains.  I jetted it down, put in the stock aribox, and took care of all of the leaks except for a very small one at the flange.  I checked the float levels, and the right was fine, but the left kept going out of whack, so I replaced the needle and seat, and it's at level now (all by the transparent-tube method).

Any ideas?  Dave says it needs beer.  He's beta-testing the beer on himself.

GeeP

If you're sure it's not a carb issue, check for intake leaks after the carbs.
Every zero you add to the tolerance adds a zero to the price.

If the product "fails" will the product liability insurance pay for the "failure" until it turns 18?

Red '96
Black MK2 SV

Faxxxy

If you have been having carb issues, your spark plugs may be fouled..
I would go with fresh plugs (with correct gap of course) before I did anything else to the carbs..

My Katana did exactly what your describing and when I dug into it I found my choke cable had broken and the bike was being choked all the time.

Roadstergal

Yeah, the next two things I'm going to try are plugs and putting the pod back in (sequentially); I really hope I still have those plugs from my old GS lying around.

The Buddha

Toss the new NGK's you have and drop in champions ... 809's I believe ...
Cool.
Srinath.
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gsmetal

Sounds to me like a possible vacuum leak  :x
"During Prohibition I survived on nothing but food and water." - W.C.Fields

Jazzzzz

Did you do any shimming of the needles when you re-jetted?

My bike did the backfiring through the carbs bit initially after I rejetted, and re-shimming the needle (lowering it in the slide by 1mm or so) solved the problem.

How do the plugs look?

dgyver

Common sense in not very common.

NiceGuysFinishLast

any results yet on the beta testing of the beer? I'd like to be in on the beta as well... (I won't tell you how old I am, then you can't get in trouble for giving me beer  :lol: )
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#GStwins gs500

Hang out there, we may flame, but we don't hate.

My attitude is in serious need of readjustment, and I'm ok with that.

aaronstj

Seeing as how the bike is intended for me, I think it's only fair that I should help out.  

Therefore, I also volunteer to help test the beer.
1992 Blue Monday, Wileyco, lunchbox, 150/40/3/1, Srinath bars, progressives, fenderectomy

Borak: How come Ogg use one spear, Borak need three?
Ogg: Not spear, caveman.

NiceGuysFinishLast

Quote from: aaronstjSeeing as how the bike is intended for me

Whoa... so you mean I'll be the only nood left hanging around? Crap..
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#GStwins gs500

Hang out there, we may flame, but we don't hate.

My attitude is in serious need of readjustment, and I'm ok with that.

aaronstj

Yeah, one of these days I'll actually have a bike.  I'll have to give up my record as "guy with the most posts whlie not owning a bike."
1992 Blue Monday, Wileyco, lunchbox, 150/40/3/1, Srinath bars, progressives, fenderectomy

Borak: How come Ogg use one spear, Borak need three?
Ogg: Not spear, caveman.

NiceGuysFinishLast

which would leave the title to me...actually, if I keep postwhoring pandy style, I'll pass you in a coupla days...
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#GStwins gs500

Hang out there, we may flame, but we don't hate.

My attitude is in serious need of readjustment, and I'm ok with that.

pandy

Hey now....I resemble that remark.  :nana:

When we put the stock airbox back in, my baby G didn't want to run either...we put the K&N back in, and he was good to go again..... well....at least until his carbs got dirty, filthy...  :(
'06 SV650s (1 past Gixxer; 3 past GS500s)
I get blamed for EVERYTHING around here!
:woohoo:

NiceGuysFinishLast

heh... I'm just acknowledging that I learned from the best Pandy!  :)  :)
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#GStwins gs500

Hang out there, we may flame, but we don't hate.

My attitude is in serious need of readjustment, and I'm ok with that.

pandy

Quote from: NiceGuysFinishLastheh... I'm just acknowledging that I learned from the best Pandy!  :)  :)

You sweet talker!  :kiss:  :lol:
'06 SV650s (1 past Gixxer; 3 past GS500s)
I get blamed for EVERYTHING around here!
:woohoo:

NiceGuysFinishLast

Quote from: pandyYou sweet talker!

so it's working? 8)  ;)
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#GStwins gs500

Hang out there, we may flame, but we don't hate.

My attitude is in serious need of readjustment, and I'm ok with that.

onefastgs500

rg, dont care what sinraith says never ever  ever ever ever screw achampion sparkplug into anything but a dodge or lawnmower.use new ngk(or nd if ngk not available) champions have been known to screw aluminum threads out on there way (shortly after they foul) are you sure its hitting on both cylinders?ive had several gs's break one of the wires leading from the pickup coils(inside the fabric cover you can feel the break with a fingernail.if it is hitting on both disregard the latter.trust me on the plugs ive been a cycle wrench for 18 yrs.
90 red 628cc 67hp racebike  90 fj1200streetbike
                              lee adams

GeeP

Quote from: aaronstjYeah, one of these days I'll actually have a bike.  I'll have to give up my record as "guy with the most posts whlie not owning a bike."

Bah!  Not until I get my bike home this weekend you little shaZam!!

<------  Look at the POST COUNT.

I HOLD THE RECORD TILL NEXT WEEK.

Anyhow, I thought I told you to crawl under a rock and die the last time you disrespected my status as official "Highest posts without a bike guy".  

:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Every zero you add to the tolerance adds a zero to the price.

If the product "fails" will the product liability insurance pay for the "failure" until it turns 18?

Red '96
Black MK2 SV

NiceGuysFinishLast

Quote from: GeePBah! Not until I get my bike home this weekend you little shaZam!!
Anyhow, I thought I told you to crawl under a rock and die the last time you disrespected my status as official "Highest posts without a bike guy".  

Hah.. OWNED!! And with this post, I put myself closer to taking the record from aaronstj, after he inherits it from GeeP
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#GStwins gs500

Hang out there, we may flame, but we don't hate.

My attitude is in serious need of readjustment, and I'm ok with that.

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