put knobbies on the 91.

I actually thought about that.  But the suspension is so far from up to offroading...

Have you seen a H#nda 90 in person?  The suspention is a joke...

I think the problem with off-roading the GS would be the weight...  I think it would drop too easily.

Quote from: RVertigoI think it would drop too easily.

Think it would, Dave?  

I guess it depends on where you're trying to go...  I wasn't sticking to trails...  It was raining pretty hard at times and there was slushy snow in some places...

I got into several spots off trail that I nearly dropped the 90...

If you want to stick to trails, you could probably just take the GS as is...

just put some springs back in the forks, and don't go up hill and you'll be fine.

See sig for my dual sport experience. I never thought that thing was underpowered till my dad bought a cb250r. And then I realized it was WAYYYY underpowered when I bought the GS. Still alot of fun tho, with a gut wrenching 12 horsepower. Dayumn.

Quote from: RoadstergalA DR650SE is cheaper than an DRZ400S.

And, cheaper to insure for some reason. I got quoted on the Progressive site for $144/yr on the 650 vs. $274 for the 400.

From what I've heard, the 400S is more of a hard-core offroad bike, and the 650SE is more for old, slow folk to tool around on.  The latter also has a lower seat height, so maybe the known demographic of smaller and more careful riders is a bigger percentage of the buyers.

hmm. That looks like the Supermoto version of the DRZ.  Don't think that'd do RG too much good in the woods.  Although I really want the black one bad!

Jake

Quote from: diamond_ladywhat about the new suzuki dr z-400?
I've heard friends say you can have a LOT of fun.
Here's a comment I found
"What's this thing like to ride? In a word, it's a blast! Even though we rode the heavier, electric start model (claimed to be 262 pounds dry, as mentioned above), the weight is carried low, and Suzuki has done an exceptional job of mass centralization. The bike, therefore, feels light and maneuverable."

HAHA the 2006 DR650SE on the website is free.  MSRP of $0.00.  Anyway i would love to get a dualsport for trail riding as there are quite a few good ones in my area.  Problem is that I don't ahve the loot the get another bike just yet.  Soon though, start a new job the 1st of Dec

Quote from: RoadstergalFrom what I've heard, the 400S is more of a hard-core offroad bike, and the 650SE is more for old, slow folk to tool around on.  

I think that is because the 650 is air cooled while the 400 is water cooled.  That also will explain some of the difference in price.  I think both are fine bikes...

trail riding is not only rediculously fun, it really increases your confidence on the road.

I went to look at a few bikes yesterday.  I tried an '04 KLR250 AS had on the floor.  This one was funky - it had a battery that looked to be set up for an electric start, but it was kick-only?  It had a little more oomph than the DR200, but it still was winding pretty high at 60.  Not to mention that the kickstart will get old fast.  They're doing the factory lowering on a DR650, and I'll try it this evening.  It's a little over 300lbs, but my F650 was a little over 400lbs wet, so it'll certainly be more trailworthy.  Not to mention the suspension having more travel.

I had forgotten how nice the seating position is on a dualsport.  You see over everything.

You haven't lived until you've commuted on a kicker.

the only reason the kicker is still popular is because of all the added weight that comes with electric start...  I'm surprized to hear about the battery too.

Plus you can make fun of all the "sissies" when you have a kicker.   :mrgreen:

The KLR250 is electric start. What'd they do, hide the button?

Quote from: scratchThe KLR250 is electric start. What'd they do, hide the button?

Where dija find that?  The KLX is electric start, but what I've found online of the '04 KLR250 is that it was kick-only.

When the KLR250 was introduced in 1986, it was targeted at new riders and had both electric and kick start. I remember the KRL650 was electric only with a kick option. I really don't remember the 250 being kick only. Evar. Kawasaki gettin' cheap?