Quote from: subchow can you damage such a... thing?

Well, at least he said he isn't going to replace it for cosmetic reasons.

Quote from: pandy

Quote from: subcgiven that english is not my 1st language, I googled for 'tranny' and this is what I got:how can you damage such a... thing? what's the tranny anyway  :dunno:

:lol:  :lol:  :lol:

I agree...    :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

I love English sometimes.  

Yeah... :lol: Anyways, there's quite a few points I'd like to reply to. You are all right about it being just an accident and it is of course just an accident. To which I told her that I was more mad at the situation than at her. Even though there was no real reason to have it moved (I think she was just trying to show off to her friends but didn't want to admit that), I was only ticked that she didn't decide that it would be "better" to just ask me. But anyways, twenty minutes later I was cooled off and appologized for being a dickhead about it. I was just mad that she would think so carelessly when $ doesn't flow freely right now. It is just a peice of equipment which CAN be fixed unlike a box of priceless pictures left in the rain. Which, that was sad that that happened, octane. But, here in a few weeks money should be much more abundant so I'll have her lookin like new. I should remember Murphy's Law with a brand new bike... That's the price/chance you take when you ride something in brand new condition. Oh well, guess I knew the risks...

Anyhoo, for the mirror, blinker, brake lever and new fairing decals it will cost $80 from the dealership. I was surprised. I figured at least $200. $80 is quite affordable compared to what I was expecting. Aaaaand besides, even if it was $200 it's no big deal really. Like I said, it's just cosmetics... Way to stuff my own shoe in my mouth.  

And Pandy, I didn't give her the abandonment treatment. I only do that when I catch her cheating or lying to me about something major.  :guns: Whole 'nother can, though.  

Quote from: Jetswingyou should have apologize for putting the bike at the wrong spot.

The bike didn't need to be moved which helped fuel my anger over the situation. I had my van parked in the street which she has keys to and her friend was parked in the street as well. She just wanted to take "her car" to go to Hallmark and back.  :dunno: So, there were two other options if she truly didn't wanna bother me but like I said earlier, I think she was just tryin to show off for her friends and just didn't want to admit that. I probably wouldn't either...

Quote from: TurkinaHopefully she'll think of something to make it up to you without being prodded, and then all is good Smile

:lol: She actually agreed to wash and wax the bike. That's a two hour job! But she doesn't have to do anything to make it up to me. shaZam! happens.

Quote from: TurkinaNow, if your wife truly loved you, she would have put her body between the bike and the pavement!

:lol: If I was on someone else's bike, that's what I'd do.

I'm about to go on a major tangent here, be forewarned.

The OP's wife was dicking around with his bike for whatever reason and dropped it, doing a good amount of damage.  OK - not the end of the world.  Were I in his shoes, I would be angry, yes, but her response -- "you can't be angry at me for this" -- is basically a denial of responsibility for the situation, and that is what makes me hot under the collar just reading about it.

No responsible adult should hold a grudge over an accident, but women seem to get away with it a lot more than men.

Here comes the tangent, and I'm gonna get flamed for it: there is a HUGE double standard in favor of the woman in a relationship (talking about hetero relationships here, sorry ) whenever an argument or disagreement arises.  Women will hold a grudge/remember any mistake the man makes and use it to guilt trip him whenever it is convenient.  Men must quickly forgive any mistakes the woman makes or we're being irrational or selfish.  I'd go so far as to say that women get a pass on 80% of all arguments that start over a poor decision on their part, while men not only have to sit there and take it when it's our turn to get chewed out, but also get to look forward to being reminded of our mistakes years down the road.

I will provide a personal example, and I think you will find yourself hard pressed to not find it similar to situations you've been in.  Other examples in this thread fit the theme, too.

My story: I was doing laundry, trying to be a good guy and pitch in around the house.  I sort all the clothes appropriately and start the wash.  Three loads later, I'm folding the darks and realize that my girlfriend's favorite wool sweater made it into the dryer, and is now a good fit for the concrete garden gnome in the neighbor's yard.  

This is the first and only piece of my girlfriend's clothing that I have ever mangled in the laundry.  Up to this point in our relationship, she had ruined at least 3 of my shirts, a sweater, and a pair of pants in various ways (washing whites with colors + then drying them, washing and drying dry-clean only slacks, etc.).  Because dry-clean only clothes had been ruined this way before, we would put all the dry-clean and delicate stuff in a separate hamper in our closet; the sweater in question was in the wrong hamper.  

OK, I think -- I've got two outs here.  I will simply explain what happened, apologize and promise to replace the sweater, and all will be well.  No; instead, I was sternly talked to for over half an hour for not having paid enough attention, being careless, etc.  When I brought up that this was the first of her clothing that I'd ruined, while she had ruined a fair amount of mine, the response I received was "DONT YOU EVEN GO THERE".  For the next year (until we broke up), if I put a load of laundry in the wash, Jen would ask me if I checked for any dry-clean only stuff in that load.  Meanwhile, she shrank two more pairs of my wool slacks by mixing the dry-clean and washable piles together.  I could not mention this fact to her without getting the evil eye.

Moral: I had to let my gf off the hook for her mistakes, but I was to be held accountable for my mistakes until the end of creation.

My lovely wife is a much more rational person than Jen ever was, and doesn't rib me about my mistakes too often.  She's not totally above it though - not too long ago I broke my glasses by sitting on them after I lost them in the couch.  Now every time I forget where I've put them, I hear "you didn't sit on them again, did you?"  I occasionally return fire  -- last summer she backed into a light pole in a parking lot, folding up her rear bumper + deck lid, so if I'm with her while she's backing out of a parking spot, I'll usually whip out the old "watch out for that pole!" bit.

My relationship with my wife seems to be unique among the guys I know, though.  If their wives or girlfriends want to win an argument, they can either turn on the water works, or spout some completely illogical crap (YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO BE ANGRY AT ME) and then walk out of the room.  The second option is usually followed by the cold shoulder for a day or two.

And there, my friends, is the heart of the double standard.  A woman can trump almost any argument by denying her partner her company and physical affection.  If a man does the same, he is abandoning the relationship (see octane's post a few above mine).  She who controls the booty controls the relationship.  And people wonder why there's a market out there for RealDolls!

I'm thankful every day that my wife and I respect each other enough to not play silly little games.

Quote from: phireAnyhoo, for the mirror, blinker, brake lever and new fairing decals it will cost $80 from the dealership. I was surprised. I figured at least $200. $80 is quite affordable compared to what I was expecting. Aaaaand besides, even if it was $200 it's no big deal really. Like I said, it's just cosmetics... Way to stuff my own shoe in my mouth.  

i'm glad you came to your senses...

i was kinda worry that your tranny might be badly damaged :lol:

when the wind knock down my bike, it had done close to $300 damage. 2 $60 barend mirrors busted, one of the $80 barends busted, $60 bike cover ripped, $20 lever snapped...and paint chip on the tank, scratch on the engine cover. the worse thing about was i couldn't blame the wind...

Quote from: Jazzzzz(until we broke up)...

Mucho important point here: she was the wrong girl for you. She was obviously a control freak.  :dunno:

Quote from: JazzzzzShe who controls the booty controls the relationship.  And people wonder why there's a market out there for RealDolls! I'm thankful every day that my wife and I respect each other enough to not play silly little games.

Sounds as though you've been in some real doozies of relationships. She who controls the booty either is a control freak or has a wuss for a man.  :nana: It's nice to think people outgrow the games, but I've seen some middle-aged folks still at it.  :lol:

Fortunately, we're all in control of our destinies. If we don't like the person with whom we have a relationship, we have the choice to find someone more to our liking!

Quote from: JetSwingthe worse thing about was i couldn't blame the wind...

I think you should have given the wind the cold shoulder and witheld the boo-tay!  :nana:

Quote from: pandy

Quote from: JetSwingthe worse thing about was i couldn't blame the wind...

I think you should have given the wind the cold shoulder and witheld the boo-tay!  :nana:

i don't know...the wind was very pushy and howling like a Buddha Loves You that day...

Quote from: JetSwingi don't know...the wind was very pushy and howling like a Buddha Loves You that day...

Well, howl back, ya' ol' windbag!  :kiss:

THANKYOU..    been trying to post here 3x and damn PC kept crashing

"You cant be mad at me for this"   your jokeing.  i didnt read anywhere that she was asked to move a motorcycle that she didnt NEED moved.  i cant say i would blow up but falling bikes could hurt those around them too and would be abit miffed over Both

and with Octane,   "dont trust Me around your stupid motorcycle"  jealous over a motorcycle (no offense Oct)?    He knowing there is a chance on an accident MOVES the items to prevent it not once but twice and still she manages to do the deed, "relax i didnt scratch your freakin paint"  Malishious? no,   but that is no longer an accident, its CARELESS   and then has the GALL to claim him staying in the garage and burning up his anger doing something contructive to keep from posibly snapping off and saying something worse in anger . she acuses him of abandenment? Sir, my hat is off to you.   while ive held on to my temper in the past over such events, that would have been a flip of the coin to hold that one back. that comment would have been a major and unwarrented slap in my face.  

im not perfect. i get things wrong too.  90% of the time i will back up and apologise or at the very least say "its happend,its done, leave it alone"

but i have found that im held accountable for all my wrongs, big or small. while with most wemen they demand forgiveness, they expect No or feel they dont deserve rebuffing for thier  Mistakes/Accidents.

My wife and i have been through alot in our time, most the time an uphill battle.  there are times, with us both headstrong as we are,  she will storm off and not say a thing to me Unless dealing with household or our son (business only but curtious) for a day.  God forbid if i try and talk it out. But if i feel im ready to pop my cork if i walk away or go for a ride and not say anything to her (outside of house/son) for more then an hour.   Its not just her its every woman i have personaly known in my life,  they can be angry with us and MUST be left to thier own devices, solitude or 5 more rounds of Bitching. but I cant shut them out for a breif moment in time to get myself right.     yeah, how selfish and inconsiderate of me.

Fact, the wemen folk who listen to country music have heard this one before by Terri Clark


Last night we went to bed not talking
Cause we already said to much
I face the wall you faced the window
Bound and determined not to touch

We've been married 7 years now
Some days if feels like 21
I'm still mad at you this morning
Coffee's ready if you want some
I've been up since 5
Thinking about me and you
And I've got to tell you
The conclusion I've come to

I'll never leave, I'll never stray
My love for you will never change
But I ain't ready to make up or get around to that
I think I'm right I think your wrong
I'll probably give in before long
Please don't make me smile
I just want to be mad for awhile

For now you might as well forget it
Don't run your fingers through my hair
Yeah that's right I'm being stubborn
No I don't want to go back upstairs
I'm going to leave for work
Without a goodbye kiss
But as I'm driving off
Just remember this

I'll never leave, I'll never stray
My love for you will never change
But I ain't ready to make up or get around to that
I think I'm right I think your wrong
I'll probably give in before long
Please don't make me smile
I just want to be mad for awhile

Venus and Mars I guess. No offense taken Blueknight. There's some frequent tension in my house over the cars, bikes, racing, wrenching because the wife resents the amount of time I put into it. I try to balance it all the best I can and spend time doing the things that are important to her, we just enjoy different things. We knew that before we were married, but I guess we figured that we loved each other for our similarities and differences and would be able to balance it all. Time will tell I guess. It goes in cycles of tension to complete understanding - usually in association with the amount of outside stress in our lives. She's almost passive-aggressive about it though. Most of my higher quality or big ticket tools have been birthday or Christmas gifts from her, so she's supportive in the sense that she recognizes how passionate I am about my hobbies and wants me to enjoy it. But on the other hand she hates that races and track days are on weekends when she wants the family to be out picking pumpkins or something and she hates going to bed alone on Saturday night because I'm out in the shop building something.

And Pandy...the emotional abandonment may hurt women's feelings, but I assure you it wasn't as hurtful as the words I was swallowing that afternoon!

Which brings me to my next point...Jazzz, I hear what you're saying about the double standard and the arguments. My wife remembers everything I've ever done or said that hurt her feelings back to the day we met - even some things that at the time I had no idea had hurt her feelings. But I couldn't come up with a single example of something she did to upset me or piss me off that happened more than 48 hours ago. THAT is why men lose arguments with their wives. She'll start rattling off crap that I'm not even sure ever happened and I can't come up with a single situation to combat it....short of the motorcycle incident, which is unfortunately irrelevant in 99.9% of fights and would only appear desperate. That short term memory is the reason I can't win a fight with my wife. Half the time when we argue, by the time we're done she's got ME thinking I'm an @$$hole.

Octane, you need to start remembering better! Hold grudges and brood over things more like she does and then maybe you'll start winning some arguments! :lol: I'm basically the same way as you are... I don't remember most of the things my wife has done to offend me because after I'm done being mad and moved on... I don't care anymore... It's OVER and done with. However, what I've gotten good at is truly thinking about her side of the story and trying to understand where she's coming from with her argument. Picking out things she's done that are similar doesn't often work and only leads to a justification battle. Anyways, after trying hard to understand where she's coming from, and only after she's helped me to understand where she's coming from so that I can make my case appropriately do I decide to admit I'm wrong or find huge gaping logic holes in her argument. Not to sound like an arrogant prick or anything, but most of the time she secedes from the argument admitting fault or being irrational. Though, what gets my goat is that after she does secede and we both GET OVER the problem together (I don't let the argument die until she's said everything she wants to), she will still be upset about it again later on! WTF?!  :x  

So, moral of the story is.... Take it in the ass like a man and chalk it up as another "female experience." And for those of you men who don't have these kinds of problems...  :guns: Seriously.  :nana:

We could all just be lesbians...then you wouldnt have to deal with it...


...course you wouldn't be getting any either :nana:

Quote from: Onlypastrana199 We could all just be lesbians...then you wouldnt have to deal with it...

...course you wouldn't be getting any either :nana:

That's the attitude I'm talking about.

Quote from: Onlypastrana199 We could all just be lesbians...then you wouldnt have to deal with it...

But then how do you decide who gets to be wrong?  Flip a coin?  Take turns? ("Everything will be my fault on weekends and alternate Thursdays.")  :dunno:

this thread officially has gone lesbien...it took long enough...!

...ok I don't think I have ever reacted in a "you can't be mad at me but I'm going to hold a grudge against you for something you did" way in ANY relationship I've ever been in. In fact a couple times its been the opposite. I understand where you're coming from though.

Quote from: Onlypastrana199 We could all just be lesbians...then you wouldnt have to deal with it...


...course you wouldn't be getting any either :nana:

^^^ = part of life. It's really the women that wear the pants because ultimately, the man will get horny at some point and cave in to any demand she wishes. And actually, I don't mind lesbians... I just want to watch. Yeah, so I'm a perverted POS, but hey at least I admit it.

Quote from: Onlypastrana199...ok I don't think I have ever reacted in a "you can't be mad at me but I'm going to hold a grudge against you for something you did" way in ANY relationship I've ever been in. In fact a couple times its been the opposite. I understand where you're coming from though.

Well, of course you wouldn't react that way. It's YOUR perspective and you're not that illogical. But from someone else's perspective, you might have. BTW, I stress might.   So, please refrain from chopping my balls off. I do indeed value them!  :lol:

:lol:  :lol:  :lol: Don't worry your balls are safe.  I think its just that I don't get mad...unless of course you're my little brother, then I get pissed when you back the BMW I just bought you into my bike (in a garage no less he had to aim to hit it) and upon hearing the noise continue to drive backwards, and even then I was only mad for a little while and just picked my bike up, went and got on one that wasn't broken and went for ride....Rides cure everything...when people are mad they should just go for rides lol But seriously..what does being mad get you? Higher blood pressure thats all.