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PA State Helmet Enforcement

Started by cjs159, July 09, 2003, 07:32:40 AM

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The Antibody

It's Darwinism...... natural selection. Let these morons ride around without a helmet. Then if they wreck, instead of being hurt for a bit, recovering, and returning to riding and living there life, they will die and won't spread their "stupid" seed to this planet.

 -Anti
Once the President of Coolness, always the President of Coolness.

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bbanjo

I wear my helmet to lube my chain.
No time to wash the bike

Jared

Personally I like my Head just the way it is... So I'll always wear a helmet... I rode one night (the last night before they put the law back into effect in MD) without my helmet.... I had to know what I was going to be "missing"...

Well I was rolling through a 45 mph sweeper...and out of the corner opf my eye I can see the asphalt zooming by as I have the bike leaned over pretty well....It occured to me how much hitting that asphalt without my helmet on would REALLY hurt my head... So I went home and got my helmet....

As far as heat goes ...I wear shooting glasses under my visor and keep the visor up for ventilation...

Darwinism ....Yeah they'll take themselves out...natural selection and all.....

Not wearing one because "The man" says you have to... That's kind of childish to me... but then again I like my head just the way it is now...

Bbanjo...wearing it while you're lubing your chain...too funny...
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JohNLA

Quote from: Jared
Well I was rolling through a 45 mph sweeper...and out of the corner opf my eye I can see the asphalt zooming by as I have the bike leaned over pretty well....It occured to me how much hitting that asphalt without my helmet on would REALLY hurt my head... So I went home and got my helmet....

Not wearing one because "The man" says you have to... That's kind of childish to me... but then again I like my head just the way it is now...
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Yea well at least you had a choice before the man took it away.
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cjburke

QuoteFrom JasonB: And county hospitals cant turn away people even if they dont have insurance..and who pays for that..uh we do. Everyone pays for it in the end, either higher tax rates, higher insurance, higher hospital cost.

Without helmets, many will bypass the hospital and go straight to the mortician.  I think riding without a helmet is crazy, but we all choose our own risks.

Carl

jake42

Quote from: mrslush50let people do whatever they want.  If they're stupid enough to ride without a helmet, then fine.  Who cares.  Since when is it the governments place to tell people they can't be stupid?

As long as they're not putting others in danger, it's every moron's right to not wear a helmet, or a seatbelt, or to stand up on a roller coaster, or to jump off a bridge, or get in the ring with Mike Tyson.

this is the sort of darwinian perspective.  just pray they do all that stupid stuff BEFORE they reproduce :cheers:

jake
"God is a big guy who drives a monster truck and lives in the sky". Isaac age 3.  My boy is a philosophical genius.

JakeD-getting your nipple pierced is not crazy. Killing a drifter to get an errection? Now that's crazy!

jake42

sorry about my last post --- seems i replied before scrolling to page 2 and reading everyone else's darwin comments.  

shaZam! and i thought i was being original--- :x
jake
"God is a big guy who drives a monster truck and lives in the sky". Isaac age 3.  My boy is a philosophical genius.

JakeD-getting your nipple pierced is not crazy. Killing a drifter to get an errection? Now that's crazy!

TwinSport

I live here in York, PA home to the Harley Davidson plant and thousand and thousands of adamant bikers.  The comunity here is torn over the law.  The harley driving beanie wearing riders out there say that the difference between a helmet and no helmet is that your brains are splatered on the road or in the helmet. This may be true, but in my opinion if i fall at a moderate speed, my shoei is saving me from a lot, including screwing up my pretty face, haha.  I think beginning riders should wear for 2 years then have the choice, that's just my opinion.

TwinSport

Oh, and on a followup.... what the hell is the point of carrying a helmet strapped to the side of your bike?!?!? I see this in MD and DE all the time. WTF?

The Antibody

HAHA! you suck Jake! HAHA!

 -Anti
Once the President of Coolness, always the President of Coolness.

"Just try not to screw it up!"

glenn9171

I may be the minority here, but I would not mind a helmet law.  Many accidents around here (no helmet law) are fatalities due to massive head injuries...many more are vegetables lying in a hospital bed.  Where if they had been wearing a lid, they probably would have only had comparably minor injuries.  

People Buddha Loves You and moan when they have to pay several hundred to several thousands of dollars for insurance each year, but want dumbasses to be able to choose to ride without a helmet.  Pick one side or the other.

The Antibody

On the contrary. I believe you are the majority. Well, I don't think there needs to be a helmet law. I think it is common sence. Wear one! I do think it is a good law though.

 -Anti
Once the President of Coolness, always the President of Coolness.

"Just try not to screw it up!"

rhenter

I always wear my helmet, and not because some stupid law makes me.  Allow the government to outlaw stupidity and the next thing you know, they will outlaw fun.  :nono:  I say hurrah for PA
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The Antibody

rhenter,

 Love the avatar man. Love it!

 -Anti :thumb:
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pdg108

The GS500 is the safest bike on the planet, it can just barely kill you.
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JasonB

Ah but the democratic government is the voice of the people so in actuality you are saying you want a helmet law if your state passed it, or the majority of your state wants it. You elected the people to represent you and if they make a law you and/or the majority of voters wanted it.
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glenn9171

Good points there.  How about this?  When someone buys insurance (we all at least have to have liability (here anyway), you sign a waiver.  This waiver says that if you get involved in an accident that a helmet would have most likely prevented or significantly reduced the chance of massive head injuries, the insurance company does not have to burden the other sensible riders financially for your stupidity.  In other words, no lid, no paying for you to be tube-fed for the next 20 years on my coin.  

Don't say that it's discriminating against those that choose not to wear a helmet.  Some medical insurance companies already don't have to pay if you are hurt while riding a motorcycle or other "dangerous hobbies".

nsoccer3097

here's an idea, some companies give a "deduction" in employee health insurance costs if they say that they'll wear their seatbelt.  granted, it's only $1-2 bucks a month, but still.  what if i promised the insurance company that i'd wear my helmet, and other riding gear if necessary, and they decrease my premiums?  i'm sure that'll happen when motorcycles are deemed 'transportation' instead of 'recreational'.

glenn9171

My health insurance pays an extra $10,000 to my family if I am killed in a car accident while wearing a seatbelt.  Perhaps insurance companies should offer something similar.  I am sure they won't go as high as $10,000 but it would be a start.

Jared

PDG....

Well a seatbelt is much like a helmet ... It's better to be using both in 99.99% of the cases (100% with the helmets..)...

Now having a law that says you must wear them shouldn't be necessary if everyone used a little more common sense.

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It smells nasty and has absolutely no benefits to anyone that does it. Not to mention the money side of it... how much does the average smoker spend a year on that crap?

"Chances are I won't hurt anyone else in the process." --That just doesn't apply to the smoking part. Take chances with your own health-fine... Smoking around anyone else is taking chances with their health ...not just yours.
When the 2nd Amendment is lost, the rest will soon follow.

Torque is LBs-FT Damn it.
Yeah that was me.    One of my rides

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