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STRIPPED pilots~~!!!

Started by Rashad, July 12, 2003, 11:44:17 AM

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Rashad

OK, i was jetting the carbs today (thanks again wingbolt :mrgreen: ) and everything went fine.. Then i came to taking out the stock pilots. They are stripped and i have no idea how anyone gets these out. I think im screwed. I have to put it back together with just the washers and mains.. and im pissed. :x  

But anyhow, does anyone know how to get these out? I dont care if i ruin the pilots, its the carb bodies im worried about. Thanks!
91' Teal GS500E

Vance and Hines Full system/ Custom Jetted/ K&N Clamp on pods/ Rebuilt 99' Motor/ EBC Pads/ 15 tooth front sprocket/ Avon tires/ Progressive Springs...

The Antibody

Can't you just drill them out?


 -Anti
Edit: I don't mean all the way.... as you drill they will spin out.
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Pkaaso

Rashad, you should be able to drill and "easy-out" the pilot jets.  I would stongly suggest that you use a drill press so you don't drill to far.  A small easy out should work.  There are already the little holes in the jets, just enlarge the hole a little.  

As Anti said, maybe a reverse drill spinning counter clockwise may work too.  

Good luck on this one.

Paul
I don't want a pickle, I just wanna ride on my motorcycle. - Arlo Guthrie

Rashad

Thanks, but this kind of stuff is my weak point. I hate having to use a drill on something this fragile. Ive never used an easy out either. I guess ill have to go that route though.
91' Teal GS500E

Vance and Hines Full system/ Custom Jetted/ K&N Clamp on pods/ Rebuilt 99' Motor/ EBC Pads/ 15 tooth front sprocket/ Avon tires/ Progressive Springs...

DrtRydr23

I had the same problem with one of my pilots.  I was changing the jets and the pilot on one of my carbs stripped.  I didn't want to chance drilling so I had to take apart my other carb and replace my 40 with the stock jet.  I have some easy outs now, so the next time I take the carbs apart I may try to extract the stripped pilot.  I'm still nervous about damaging the carb body though.

John L.
1997 GS 500E, Black:  Fenderectomy, Superbike bars, progressive springs, Cobra F1R slipon, short stalk turn signals. - SOLD

2008 SV650, Blue, K&N in airbox, otherwise stock

Rashad

yeah we need the guru in here to assure us that he has done this, and its easy and safe :thumb:
91' Teal GS500E

Vance and Hines Full system/ Custom Jetted/ K&N Clamp on pods/ Rebuilt 99' Motor/ EBC Pads/ 15 tooth front sprocket/ Avon tires/ Progressive Springs...

JamesG

Don't use a drill, you could fill the passages with tiny chips of brass.

Go get a very small screw extractor and gently screw it into the pilot jet.
It will probably come out very easily.
James Greeson
GS Posse
WERA #306

Rashad

Ok also.. i just searched and im still not sure...

Are my 125.7 mains adequate for a V&H pipe??
91' Teal GS500E

Vance and Hines Full system/ Custom Jetted/ K&N Clamp on pods/ Rebuilt 99' Motor/ EBC Pads/ 15 tooth front sprocket/ Avon tires/ Progressive Springs...

Rashad

DOh! i mean 127.5s... and they are mikuni
91' Teal GS500E

Vance and Hines Full system/ Custom Jetted/ K&N Clamp on pods/ Rebuilt 99' Motor/ EBC Pads/ 15 tooth front sprocket/ Avon tires/ Progressive Springs...

Rashad

DOh! i mean 127.5s... and they are mikuni
91' Teal GS500E

Vance and Hines Full system/ Custom Jetted/ K&N Clamp on pods/ Rebuilt 99' Motor/ EBC Pads/ 15 tooth front sprocket/ Avon tires/ Progressive Springs...

Pkaaso

Quote from: JamesGDon't use a drill, you could fill the passages with tiny chips of brass.


Good point james.
I don't want a pickle, I just wanna ride on my motorcycle. - Arlo Guthrie

The Buddha

Never saw this post till now...My carbs had bad pilots in it...I didn't check...stoopid me...I have stripped it and drilled it out in the past but I have not in the last 5 years and 5 bikes stripped one...The right tools make a big diff. Yea you need to clean the crap out of it...if you drill it but dont worry just damaging the head you have made enough shavings to last a life time of cleaning. Atleast with the pilot out you can get a Q-tip in there and clean it well unlike now. It can be cleaned so just drill it carefully.Left handed drills work great but they are hard to find.
Cool.
Srinath.
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Rashad

Can u explain the method of drilling it in more detail? Do i just drill into it normally, and then put it in reverse to  back it out?
91' Teal GS500E

Vance and Hines Full system/ Custom Jetted/ K&N Clamp on pods/ Rebuilt 99' Motor/ EBC Pads/ 15 tooth front sprocket/ Avon tires/ Progressive Springs...

The Buddha

OK Snap on is supposed to sell left handed drills. If you find those great. Just put it on the drill press and run it in reverse and as the tool bites in the jet it will catch it and take it out. I feel so bad not checking these before sending it to you. Else you drill with the regular small drill running the right way (screwing in) and then take it out with an easy out.
Cool.
Srinath.
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Rashad

ahh dont worry man.. it happens. I dont even know what an easy out is... ill have to get one.
91' Teal GS500E

Vance and Hines Full system/ Custom Jetted/ K&N Clamp on pods/ Rebuilt 99' Motor/ EBC Pads/ 15 tooth front sprocket/ Avon tires/ Progressive Springs...

KevinC

A trick I have found that works well to avoid mangling the head of the jets (I know these ones were pre-magled). Get the carb on a firm surface, top off, and give the jet a solid shot with a drift and rubber hammer, or even the appropriate straight bladed screw driver and a rubber hammer.

If the jet doesn't move fairly easily on my first try with the right sized and nice new bladed screw driver, I just give it a shot. So far it's worked every time for me.

Rashad

i tried that :oops: ... didnt seem to work.. i even tried penetrating oil... no go. Ill have to try drilling next.. with that crazy easy out.
91' Teal GS500E

Vance and Hines Full system/ Custom Jetted/ K&N Clamp on pods/ Rebuilt 99' Motor/ EBC Pads/ 15 tooth front sprocket/ Avon tires/ Progressive Springs...

DrtRydr23

Quote from: Rashadahh dont worry man.. it happens. I dont even know what an easy out is... ill have to get one.

Easy out's aren't as easy as they sound.  I had to easy out a fitting from my brother's tranny (on his truck) and that easy out wouldn't bite for $#!T.  I finally got it out, but it sucked.  They do work though, they may just take some time.  You can get them at most auto part's stores (they'll probably be labelled "Screw Extractors".  The one's that I have look similar to reverse groove drill bits (kind of).  To use them just tap the end into the hole that you may or may not have to drill in the jet, then put a small wrench on the square end and turn the jet out.  The extractor should wedge itself into the hole and grab the jet.  As you turn the extractor the jet should turn also.  Easy out as pie.

John L.
1997 GS 500E, Black:  Fenderectomy, Superbike bars, progressive springs, Cobra F1R slipon, short stalk turn signals. - SOLD

2008 SV650, Blue, K&N in airbox, otherwise stock

scratch

Now for something as delicate as a jet and a soft metal (brass) I would just tap the screw extractor into the 'hole' and then use a small adjustable wrench to rotate it counterclockwise. Just as DrtRydr said.
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Rashad

yeah, that drtryder has some good info sometimes :thumb:

...... sometimes...

eh.... once in a blue mooon.

*looks outside*

"OMG!!! guys!! THE moon is BLUE!!"
91' Teal GS500E

Vance and Hines Full system/ Custom Jetted/ K&N Clamp on pods/ Rebuilt 99' Motor/ EBC Pads/ 15 tooth front sprocket/ Avon tires/ Progressive Springs...

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