so by not pbserving daylight savings AZ gets screwed anyway.


btw-all you guys have WAY too much TIME on your hands to be thinking about this.

Quote from: john on April 02, 2006, 03:26:51 PM
Thankfully Arizona is the only state that does not observe the whole spring forward/fall back crap.

what really? so you all just decided that you weren't gonna change your clocks? thats crazy.

so what happens if say, you live in one state, and then you work in another. would you get to go in late and be like "no sorry, I'm not late, its 9:00 in Aizona"

We should all switch to metric time.   

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Quote from: john on April 02, 2006, 03:26:51 PM
Thankfully Arizona is the only state that does not observe the whole spring forward/fall back crap.

Losing an hour of sleep, for me, is like losing a loved one.

Arizona is cool.  BTW, do you guys recognize MLK Day?  I just remember the old "Public Enemy" song, "By the Time I Get to Arizona", from "Fear of a Black Planet."  Probably the coolest beat to any rap song I have ever heard (except "The Last Song" by "Above the Law").

Quote from: Jake D on April 03, 2006, 08:15:44 AM
Losing an hour of sleep, for me, is like losing a loved one.

Hear Hear!!

Time is not man made. We just have to measure it, because we live in it.

Relitivity states time is relative to your speed and position in space.

The Laws of thermodynamics is more of a view that time is a funtion of entropy. The 'arrow of time'  in which the universe becomes more disorganized.

The truth is probably somewhere in the middle. We anly percieve time differntly because of our perspective.

Oh and about changing the measurements of time. Forget about it. Most people in the U.S. can't grasp the metric system.

Quote from: Jake D on April 03, 2006, 08:15:44 AM

Quote from: john on April 02, 2006, 03:26:51 PM
Thankfully Arizona is the only state that does not observe the whole spring forward/fall back crap.

Losing an hour of sleep, for me, is like losing a loved one.

Arizona is cool.  BTW, do you guys recognize MLK Day?  I just remember the old "Public Enemy" song, "By the Time I Get to Arizona", from "Fear of a Black Planet."  Probably the coolest beat to any rap song I have ever heard (except "The Last Song" by "Above the Law").

Yeah AZ now recognizes MLK day,  I remember when we didnt and there was a bunch of negative media attention about it.   

Arizona will join us! They will have no choice but to join us. They will conform!

Quote from: bsj177 on April 04, 2006, 09:36:53 AM

Quote from: Jake D on April 03, 2006, 08:15:44 AM

Quote from: john on April 02, 2006, 03:26:51 PM
Thankfully Arizona is the only state that does not observe the whole spring forward/fall back crap.

Losing an hour of sleep, for me, is like losing a loved one.

Arizona is cool.  BTW, do you guys recognize MLK Day?  I just remember the old "Public Enemy" song, "By the Time I Get to Arizona", from "Fear of a Black Planet."  Probably the coolest beat to any rap song I have ever heard (except "The Last Song" by "Above the Law").

Yeah AZ now recognizes MLK day, I remember when we didnt and there was a bunch of negative media attention about it.

It's all thanks to the NFL. No MLK day...No Superbowl...Bad Arizona voters!

Wait there is a football team in Arizona???

Everyone should just go off time on the Prime Meridian... or Zulu time as we call it in aviation.... When flying from time zone to time zone, you can't file a flight plan here, give an estimated time of arrival in local time (here) for a destination that is a few time zones away. it would just cause too much confusion. so everyone uses Zulu time. We also use the 24 hour clock. so there's no AM, PM  B.S. either.

If we all used Standard time, it would be the same time everywhere... all the time, and things would be simple. but then again, I couldn't cross the border and celebrate New Years twice...   

Quote from: ajgs500 on April 04, 2006, 01:04:59 PM
Wait there is a football team in Arizona???

Some would call it that...

I remember when I was 7  an hour was an eternity.

I am 26 now and feel the hours ticking away by the second.  Funny thing time does.

I bet when I am 50 the months will fly by.

This could be why I ride a GS everywhere I can whenever I can. rain or shine.  why I sit an play with my kids all afternoon, instead of what TV.

Time is priceless. I am glad I am still young now that I know.

Quote from: joedude on April 05, 2006, 12:53:25 AM
Everyone should just go off time on the Prime Meridian... or Zulu time as we call it in aviation.... When flying from time zone to time zone, you can't file a flight plan here, give an estimated time of arrival in local time (here) for a destination that is a few time zones away. it would just cause too much confusion. so everyone uses Zulu time. We also use the 24 hour clock. so there's no AM, PM  B.S. either.

If we all used Standard time, it would be the same time everywhere... all the time, and things would be simple. but then again, I couldn't cross the border and celebrate New Years twice...   

Zulu would be easier if everyone used it and you didnt have to convert it.    In AZ were +7 Zulu time.      I'm also in aviation (helo pilot).

bsj177 - do you fly for a living/who do you work for?

Here's a story I think you could appreciate: I was speeding thru some rural streets  and a cop pulled me over. He said with a snotty tone: "Wow son, you were really flying back there... I don't want to see a license and registration, I want to see a pilot's license!" I had just come back from a flight so I had it on me and I pulled it out... needless to say his expression was priceless. I think he was so shocked and embarassed that his little joke backfired on him, thats probably why he let me go with a warning!!

Thats awesome.  he musta been like 

ha Cops.  Can't live with em ...can't kill em.   

I can't believe I just took the time to read all this just to say that time is relative, because it would take me the same amount of time do something here as it would on Mars (disregarding gravity, think of something you would do that doesn't involve gravity).

Actually....................Not like it matters, but I have to post it just to argue...

Tests have shown that gravity does affect time...  Gravity wells actually bend spacetime...

Look into it... It'll screw with your head to the point of being blown away or realizing that it doesn't matter.    Maybe both.

Quote from: joedude on April 05, 2006, 12:14:50 PM
bsj177 - do you fly for a living/who do you work for?

Here's a story I think you could appreciate: I was speeding thru some rural streets  and a cop pulled me over. He said with a snotty tone: "Wow son, you were really flying back there... I don't want to see a license and registration, I want to see a pilot's license!" I had just come back from a flight so I had it on me and I pulled it out... needless to say his expression was priceless. I think he was so shocked and embarassed that his little joke backfired on him, thats probably why he let me go with a warning!!

Haha thats a funny story.   Bet the cop never used that line again!    I dont work as a helo pilot yet, still in school.   I have my private license and right now working on my instrument rating.   Should be a CFI in about a year or so.    What do you fly?