Here in NJ on my way to work on the turnpike I see a few bikes lanes- splitting when the traffic backs up.  Here in NJ this is still not legal.   I saw one guy splitting then a few minutes later a LEO was traveling with lights on in the shoulder, I guess he was trying to catch him.  This guy I have seen before going 100+ before so I am sure that was the reason for the chase.

I am going to switch to my bike for the rest of the summer for my commute (130 Miles a day).

My question is have any of you ever got caught lane-splitting outside of CA?

If so how was the ticket written up as?

What was the fine?

Is there a difference riding the median/shoulder in the terms of the fine and points? 

be very careful dude. 

I will be safe, spent $800 on gear.

When I was in school in INDIA I used to ride my Yamaha RX100 80KM from my village to the city.  There I would have to look out for on coming head on Trucks , Cars; its like playing chicken with a semi.  Plus you have people on cycles the ride into the road not looking at traffic.

Also do not forget the Goats, Chickens, Bulls and the occasional MAD group of people blocking the highway for some reason.

Yes my bike had lots of Mods, Bike comes with 4 gears (for India only) I added the 5th gear. Up graded the power from a 6V to a 12V system and had a 100W head light. Bike cost me US $1000.00 I spent another $400 on mods.

Now that was FUN!.

But I still feel safer riding there then I do here.

Ever see what $800 worth of gear looks like after it's run under a semi tractor?:rolleyes:

Oh, and just so you know, it doesn't matter where you get caught lane-splitting.  It's not legal anywhere in the States.  It likely never will be.

Quote from: makenzie71 on April 10, 2006, 03:01:46 PMIt's not legal anywhere in the States.  It likely never will be.

Uh...  CA.

Quote from: RVertigo on April 10, 2006, 03:33:37 PMUh...  CA.

Uh... no.  Not there, either.

Lane splitting is very legal in at least a few states. Here in CA its legal to share a lane as long as it is "safe and prudent" to do so. My MSF instructor explained that to mean that if anything happens regardless of fault, its the MC riders issue because it was clearly either not safe or prudent to make that lane split. I've heard of other states where it is legal, but very poorlly tolerated by other motorists. Here in CA its a common practice and is fairly well accepted by the cagers.

Quote from: EMTkid on April 10, 2006, 03:35:06 PM
Lane splitting is very legal in at least a few states. Here in CA its legal to share a lane as long as it is "safe and prudent" to do so. My MSF instructor explained that to mean that if anything happens regardless of fault, its the MC riders issue because it was clearly either not safe or prudent to make that lane split. I've heard of other states where it is legal, but very poorlly tolerated by other motorists. Here in CA its a common practice and is fairly well accepted by the cagers.

It is NOT legal to pass between cars in California...you can not legally share a lane with a car in any state.

Read up...

http://www.laneshare.com/component/option,com_frontpage/Itemid,1/

Quote from: makenzie71 on April 10, 2006, 03:34:38 PM

Quote from: RVertigo on April 10, 2006, 03:33:37 PMUh...  CA.

Uh... no.  Not there, either.

   Oh right.. I forgot... You're right about everything.  

Totally not legal.  

Quote from: RVertigo on April 10, 2006, 03:39:21 PM
You're right about everything.

Unfortunately, yes.  I suggest you do some reading, as well.

Quote from: makenzie71 on April 10, 2006, 03:40:51 PM

Quote from: RVertigo on April 10, 2006, 03:39:21 PMYou're right about everything.

Unfortunately, yes.  I suggest you do some reading, as well.

You're pretty funny...

So... There's no law saying it's illegal... Therefore it's legal.  Kinda like there's no law saying that eating ham is illegal, therefore it's legal.  There doesn't have to be a law stating that something is legal.

There is a law stating that it is illegal to lane split/share in WA.

But, you already knew that...  'cause you're right about everything. 

Here's the text (verbatim) from the CHP's site: "Lane splitting by motorcycles is permissible under California law but must done in a "safe and prudent manner." The text used to also include "The motorcycle should be traveling no more than 10 mph faster than surrounding traffic (without exceeding the speed limit) and not come close enough to that traffic to cause a collision." but has since been removed. Perhaps they wanted to give cops more latitude to interpret what they thought was safe so they removed it.
     Lane splitting on surface streets is probably not addressed in city or county laws so I would do this with caution, as individual cops will decide whether or not they like what they see.
     You can also find more on lane-splitting in the DMV Motorcycle handbook (see page 20 in the handbook). 

You can also find it right on the page that Mak posted... 

QuoteLane splitting by motorcycles is permissible but must be done in a safe and prudent manner.

More here:    http://www.laneshare.com/content/view/24/34/

Quote from: RVertigo on April 10, 2006, 03:42:41 PM
You're pretty funny...

California vehicular code makes no mention of motorcycles sharing lanes, that I've found.  California vehicular code does make several mentions of "vehicles" sharing lanes...if you catch an officer and a judge who want to push the law, they can...either through that or with a charge of wreckless endangerment they can get you if they want.

Also, not having provisions ragarding the practice does not mean it's legal...you might also look at the definition of "permissable".  Jay-walking is permissable...still illegal.

Quote from: EMTkid on April 10, 2006, 03:48:42 PM
You can also find more on lane-splitting in the DMV Motorcycle handbook (see page 20 in the handbook).

Did you get "pg 20" from the chp's site?  Because page 20 covers clothing, lighting and signals.

I'm not sure everyone's on the same page here. Or maybe I'm just way off. But I feel like some people are talking about lane sharing (two bikes staggered in one lane) and lane splitting (a motorcycle going between two cars when traffic is slower than the posted limit). I may be way off in these interpretations though. I usually am.

But sharing is usually legal as far as I know, while splitting is generally illegal. I think.

Please don't kill me if I'm way off...

Quote from: makenzie71 on April 10, 2006, 04:02:10 PMJay-walking is permissable...still illegal.

I suggest you do some reading, as well.  Here's a site for you to check out...  Maybe you've seen it before:

http://www.laneshare.com/content/view/24/34/

QuoteCalifornia code 22350
No person shall drive a vehicle upon a highway at a speed greater than is reasonable or prudent having due regard for weather, visibility, the traffic on, and the surface and width of, the highway, and in no event at a speed which endangers the safety of persons or property.

California code 21658
Whenever any roadway has been divided into two or more clearly marked lanes for traffic in one direction, the following rules apply:
   (a) A vehicle shall be driven as nearly as practical entirely within a single lane and shall not be moved from the lane until such movement can be made with reasonable safety.
   (b) Official signs may be erected directing slow-moving traffic to use a designated lane or allocating specified lanes to traffic moving in the same direction, and drivers of vehicles shall obey the directions of the traffic device.

California code 22107
No person shall turn a vehicle from a direct course or move right or left upon a roadway until such movement can be made with reasonable safety and then only after the giving of an appropriate signal in the manner provided in this chapter in the event any other vehicle may be affected by the movement.

Hmm... Crazy...  Something else from the same page: 

QuoteCan motorcycle riders "split" lanes and ride between other vehicles?


Lane splitting by motorcycles is permissible but must be done in a safe and prudent manner.

In Washington it's very different...  It's illegal here.  See:

QuoteRCW 46.61.608
Operating motorcycles on roadways laned for traffic.


(1) All motorcycles are entitled to full use of a lane and no motor vehicle shall be driven in such a manner as to deprive any motorcycle of the full use of a lane. This subsection shall not apply to motorcycles operated two abreast in a single lane.

     (2) The operator of a motorcycle shall not overtake and pass in the same lane occupied by the vehicle being overtaken.

     (3) No person shall operate a motorcycle between lanes of traffic or between adjacent lines or rows of vehicles.

     (4) Motorcycles shall not be operated more than two abreast in a single lane.

     (5) Subsections (2) and (3) of this section shall not apply to police officers in the performance of their official duties.

...the california quotes and the washington quotes are pretty similar...yet it's legal in Cali but not in Washington?

(well...the WA quote is a bit more clear cut...)

Quote from: RVertigo on April 10, 2006, 04:12:52 PM

Quote from: makenzie71 on April 10, 2006, 04:02:10 PMJay-walking is permissable...still illegal.

I suggest you do some reading, as well.  Here's a site for you to check out...  Maybe you've seen it before:

http://www.laneshare.com/content/view/24/34/

QuoteCalifornia code 22350
No person shall drive a vehicle upon a highway at a speed greater than is reasonable or prudent having due regard for weather, visibility, the traffic on, and the surface and width of, the highway, and in no event at a speed which endangers the safety of persons or property.

California code 21658
Whenever any roadway has been divided into two or more clearly marked lanes for traffic in one direction, the following rules apply:
   (a) A vehicle shall be driven as nearly as practical entirely within a single lane and shall not be moved from the lane until such movement can be made with reasonable safety.
   (b) Official signs may be erected directing slow-moving traffic to use a designated lane or allocating specified lanes to traffic moving in the same direction, and drivers of vehicles shall obey the directions of the traffic device.

California code 22107
No person shall turn a vehicle from a direct course or move right or left upon a roadway until such movement can be made with reasonable safety and then only after the giving of an appropriate signal in the manner provided in this chapter in the event any other vehicle may be affected by the movement.

Hmm... Crazy...  Something else from the same page: 

QuoteCan motorcycle riders "split" lanes and ride between other vehicles?


Lane splitting by motorcycles is permissible but must be done in a safe and prudent manner.

In Washington it's very different...  It's illegal here.  See:

QuoteRCW 46.61.608
Operating motorcycles on roadways laned for traffic.


(1) All motorcycles are entitled to full use of a lane and no motor vehicle shall be driven in such a manner as to deprive any motorcycle of the full use of a lane. This subsection shall not apply to motorcycles operated two abreast in a single lane.

     (2) The operator of a motorcycle shall not overtake and pass in the same lane occupied by the vehicle being overtaken.

     (3) No person shall operate a motorcycle between lanes of traffic or between adjacent lines or rows of vehicles.

     (4) Motorcycles shall not be operated more than two abreast in a single lane.

     (5) Subsections (2) and (3) of this section shall not apply to police officers in the performance of their official duties.

At any rate...it's not legal in California.  No provisions regarding it.  Each situation will be judged by the propper authoraties as to where it was appropriate action or not.

I live in Cali; lane-sharing is legal here. 

Here's a response from one of the bay area's LEO's posting on BARF:

http://www.bayarearidersforum.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=154980&highlight=lanesharing

Is the pissing match over yet???

So can anyone answer the original question

Quote from: koganti on April 10, 2006, 02:17:35 PM
My question is have any of you ever got caught lane-splitting outside of CA?

If so how was the ticket written up as?

What was the fine?

Is there a difference riding the median/shoulder in the terms of the fine and points?