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Proper scrub in

Started by budget speed demon, April 11, 2006, 11:38:19 AM

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budget speed demon

Well along with my new front end, I'm installing a new set of Pirelli Sport Demons. I know when you put new tires on they are very slick and need to be properly 'scrubbed in' before you go to crazy in corners. How many miles does a proper scrub in involve? Is there any specific tricks to doing this?
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scratch

Could be 50 to 100 miles.  I find practicing MSF slow parking lot turns the best for scrubbing in the sides of the tires.  Practice counterleaning into the tightest left and right circles, looking over your shoulder, feeling the clutch for the friction zone...
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3imo

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94suzuki500

on my bridgestone it was 150 miles i believe.  i think it said it on the tire sticker.  but i just road easy for 150 miles in the turns and road around my neighborhood for alittle bit hitting all the turns.

RVertigo

You'll only scrub in the parts you ride on, so... Slowly work your way towards the edges, but know they they'll be slick when you get to the edge.

Once the hair and shine are gone, they're probably scrubbed in that area.

budget speed demon

I've ridden with somone who just put a new rear tire on his gsxr750 and while highway riding, he was kind of weaving from side to side, staying in one lane. I'm sure this would probably help as well.
Stealth GS parts include;carbon fiber headlight faring,chin spoiler,V&H full system,NHK steeringdamper,titan solo racetail,cbrF2 carbon fiber chainguard,proformance forksprings with emulators,SS front brake line, gsxr remote reservoir rear shock, pirelli sport demons,79mm pistons(555cc)-more to come

RVertigo

Somewhat...  The idea is that you're CAREFUL when scrubing your tires...  Don't push to 100%, more like 50%...  And you'll push the scrub further and further.

Or get out the belt sander... HA HA HA  :laugh:

3imo

Quote from: budget speed demon on April 11, 2006, 01:18:17 PM
I've ridden with somone who just put a new rear tire on his gsxr750 and while highway riding, he was kind of weaving from side to side, staying in one lane. I'm sure this would probably help as well.

My MSF instructor told us to do this constantly and that it is not against ALabama law.  The drivers handbook actually states that motorcycles will move in this manner and driver need to be weary.
He said do it for fun and do it to practice dodging things in the road. potholes, retread, rocks, dogs.

I was doing it in front of a COP and the fucker said he could give me a ticket for reckless driving.

but who cares its fun.  and It helps get rid of tire hair.
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budget speed demon

Quote from: RVertigo on April 11, 2006, 01:26:45 PM
Somewhat...  The idea is that you're CAREFUL when scrubing your tires...  Don't push to 100%, more like 50%...  And you'll push the scrub further and further.

Or get out the belt sander... HA HA HA  :laugh:

belt sander? screw that, BURN OUTS!
Stealth GS parts include;carbon fiber headlight faring,chin spoiler,V&H full system,NHK steeringdamper,titan solo racetail,cbrF2 carbon fiber chainguard,proformance forksprings with emulators,SS front brake line, gsxr remote reservoir rear shock, pirelli sport demons,79mm pistons(555cc)-more to come

RVertigo

It's hard to burn out the edge of the tire...   :dunno_white:  A burn out will clear the middle really fast though.

LimaXray

When I get new tires, I do the four-wheel-peel as much as possible and drive like a total jack ass until the damn thing wants to stay on the road... dunno if I'd recommend that tho, I scrubbed my GS's tires by riding like a slow ass noob... oh wait I am a slow ass noob :o
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budget speed demon

burn out scrub in isn't a very good idea anyways. for one your wasting brand new tires, and two you end up with a rear tire that is scrubed in much more than the front one.

On another note, I just finished 3hrs of cleaning, sanding and re-cleaning my rims. as of tomorro night I should have a nice set of gloss black wheels with new tires.
Finnaly the stealth GS is coming along. Monday the frame and lower fork legs go black, and soon after the body work will follow suit.
Stealth GS parts include;carbon fiber headlight faring,chin spoiler,V&H full system,NHK steeringdamper,titan solo racetail,cbrF2 carbon fiber chainguard,proformance forksprings with emulators,SS front brake line, gsxr remote reservoir rear shock, pirelli sport demons,79mm pistons(555cc)-more to come

RVertigo

Quote from: 3imo on April 11, 2006, 01:30:36 PMHe said do it for fun and do it to practice dodging things in the road. potholes, retread, rocks, dogs.
I do it too...  Sometimes for fun and sometimes to attract attention...

If I think someone should be seeing me, but isn't I -/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\- in my lane... 

I read a thing about how a dragonfly hunts (I think I read it here)...  They fly really damn fast at their prey...  The prey can't tell how fast the dragonfly is going until it's too late...  But, a side-to-side movement breaks the visual effect.

[edit] Found it:  http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=19930.0   :thumb:

scratch

A survival tactic I learned is when coming up on an oncoming car turning left across my lane is to angle towards the right hand side of my lane so that they have a better idea of how fast I am coming at them.  Zig-zagging has pretty much the same effect.  So would a scarf flapping in the wind.
The motorcycle is no longer the hobby, the skill has become the hobby.

Power does not compare to skill.  What good is power without the skill to use it?

QuoteOriginally posted by Wintermute on BayAreaRidersForum.com
good judgement trumps good skills every time.

3imo

I am gonna start a new thread for that motion camo write up.
I think others should see it.
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pantablo

Quote from: RVertigo on April 11, 2006, 12:57:51 PM
You'll only scrub in the parts you ride on, so... Slowly work your way towards the edges, but know they they'll be slick when you get to the edge.

Once the hair and shine are gone, they're probably scrubbed in that area.

not true. they "scrub in" from the heat generated, not from physical contact to the street. rule of thumb I've heard was 100 miles. but I've scrubbed tires in on first lap of trackday...

The key is to be easy with them and slowly increase your lean angle as you ride those first 100 miles. One shop said it best, ride the first 100 miles like you're riding in the rain. smooth, no abrupt motions, etc.

also, the weaving motion does nothing for the tires, new or not.
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Quote from: makenzie71 on August 21, 2006, 09:47:40 PM...not like normal sex, either...like sex with chicks.

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Page 4-2 of the owners manual for the F models says 160km/100 miles of riding with increasing lean angles.
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RVertigo

Quote from: pantablo on April 11, 2006, 03:06:00 PMnot true. they "scrub in" from the heat generated, not from physical contact to the street. rule of thumb I've heard was 100 miles.
SRSLY?  My edges were slippery as hell long after 100 miles (which I rode like a grandma on a Rascal)...  Once the hair and shine were gone, I didn't notice the slip any more.  :icon_confused:

Maybe 'cause it's cold all the damn time up here...   :dunno_white:

pantablo

Quote from: RVertigo on April 11, 2006, 03:22:03 PM
...slippery as hell long after 100 miles (which I rode like a grandma on a Rascal)...

maybe because its cold, maybe because you didnt ride the tires hard enough in those 100 miles. if they're not scrubbed in you wont notice it really when riding a straight line, only in the turns. rememeber that hard accelerations also heat up the tire and burn off the oily residue.
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Quote from: makenzie71 on August 21, 2006, 09:47:40 PM...not like normal sex, either...like sex with chicks.

RVertigo

I just thought the oil came off when it rubbed on the road...   :dunno_white:

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