Quote from: 2005-GS500-PDX on April 20, 2006, 11:37:56 AM

Quote from: LimaXray on April 20, 2006, 11:33:23 AM

Quote from: 2005-GS500-PDX on April 20, 2006, 11:25:58 AM

Quote from: 3imo on April 20, 2006, 11:15:23 AM
volvo and motorcycle.... who'd a thunk it.

your gonna be a black sheep on the volvo forum.

Thw who in the what now? Please, do go on...

Volvos are known to be safe cars and are stereotypically owned by overly safe people... and motorcycles are um not very safe at all

I'm the safest guy around, I even wear my leathers when I drive. Because you never know...
Wink.

Dave

thats a good idea i fall out of my car all the time when i drive

Quote from: LimaXray on April 20, 2006, 12:14:27 PM

Quote from: 2005-GS500-PDX on April 20, 2006, 11:37:56 AM

Quote from: LimaXray on April 20, 2006, 11:33:23 AM

Quote from: 2005-GS500-PDX on April 20, 2006, 11:25:58 AM

Quote from: 3imo on April 20, 2006, 11:15:23 AM
volvo and motorcycle.... who'd a thunk it.

your gonna be a black sheep on the volvo forum.

Thw who in the what now? Please, do go on...

Volvos are known to be safe cars and are stereotypically owned by overly safe people... and motorcycles are um not very safe at all

I'm the safest guy around, I even wear my leathers when I drive. Because you never know...
Wink.

Dave

thats a good idea i fall out of my car all the time when i drive

I haven't fallen out yet, but I've come close a few times.

I think our good friend roguegeek needs to check out this thread...He's got more experience with a variety of cars than anyone here.
(at least from a fit and finish/total build quality standpoint, not necessarily reliability)

h6

Well Said Wrecent.



I definetly Agree 


Cheap Money Grabbin Ba$tard$

all i know is that I have personally driven two chevys and two fords until they keeled over... and my current toyota truck currently older and higher-mileage that any those others.  It still runs today... the thing is INDESTRUCTIBLE.... buahahahaha!!!!

I wont buy another american car until I am convinced that something has changed.

As for the Harley issue... I won't ride one until they offer a product that is worth its ticket price.  They may be great, but the sure as heck aren't three times as great as their japanese counterparts.  I'll buy the bike that gets the job done for the right price and let the law of economics sort out the rest.

I think it's funny how a lot of these middle Americans wont buy anything but "All American Cars" which are basically anything from GM, Ford, and Chrysler. Too bad they don't know most of those vehicles are assembled in Canada, Mexico and sometimes Europe. And if they are assembled here, most parts are out sourced from other countries. In fact, from how they most likely define "All American Cars", Honda and Toyota should be more likely to fall under this category since most of those vehicles are assembled here. That's only because the vehicles they offered in America aren't very applicable in other countries. Different standards for driving all together. Our standard is much different that the majority of countries in the world.

The reality is that ALL AMERICAN Products damn near don't exist.

take walmart for instance.  They are strong pushers of "Made in America" products and damn proud of it.

but....... research the companies that make their products.  Technically, MAde in America is correct,  the sticker should say "assembled in AMerica". 

By no means I don't mean all, but alot do purchase the textile stock from overseas, usually taiwan.  research taiwans main
"industrial" products. and their major customer (US).

WHY?  well cause its cheaper...  is that bad? Yes and NO.  America looses factories, which means JOBS. so YES for USA

but poor countries gain jobs. so NO for poorer countries.


If the companies would lower prices to reflect their production costs savings, AMerica wouldn't suffer. but that doesn't happen. They continue to reap the profits and NOT lower the cost to the consumer.

Its Greed and its the Capitolist way.  No way around it.

It may seem losing jobs to cheap labor over seas is bad, but in the long run it has its good points.  The money industry saved by using the cheaper labor will prevent raising costs in the future as well as provide more money for future investments.  Future investments mean even more higher paying jobs in the future   

It may also seem to many that we don't make anything in the US anymore, but guess what, we are still by far the top producing country in the world.  Yeah sure, China is catching up, but they still have a long way to go, and I don't think they will ever surpass us.  (not to sound cocky or anything, I just think they are growing too fast for their own good and will eventually become unstable)

The fact of the matter is the US is a service economy, everyone is getting an education these days and there is so much skilled labor that running our own textile plants would be a waste of our resources.     

Quote from: LimaXray on April 21, 2006, 09:56:53 AM
there is so much skilled labor that running our own textile plants would be a waste of our resources.     

I agree with ya, but man there are some dumbass's running shaZam! around here, that i wish were stuck pickin oranges or sewing t-shirts in a sweatshop.