I recently asked my Suzuki dealer about using synthetic oil in my '04 GS.  He said I could't use synthetic becuase of the "wet clutch".  I have some buddies who say it's BS while others believe it.  Anyone out have an opinion or first-hand knowledge?   Thanks, Scott

oh jesus.


first off, the search button is a friendly tool.


second off, this is a long and heated debate


Third, its your own personal choice.


fourth, Asians smell like cabbage


fifth, I'm running out of ideas

and

finally, The Suzuki Manual says nothing about "not" using synthetic, just that you use a properly rated oil.



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I don't think jesus has anything to do with it - unless the he's known to be a friction modifier

uh, well, its a well known fact that jesus ran Synthetics.

He also rode a Ducati.

 

Note : I use and have used synthetic the entire time i have owned the bike (- the first 400 miles).  No clutch problems, no oil burning, runs like a champ and no sludge (yet).  I love synthetic.

Donkey, ducati - very close in Hebrew

The real question though: Between Jesus "our lord and savior" Christ and Valentino Rossi, who would win?

Quote from: TragicImage on May 11, 2006, 03:50:14 PM
oh jesus.


first off, the search button is a friendly tool.


second off, this is a long and heated debate


Third, its your own personal choice.


fourth, Asians smell like cabbage


fifth, I'm running out of ideas

and

finally, The Suzuki Manual says nothing about "not" using synthetic, just that you use a properly rated oil.



http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?action=search;advanced

Hahahahahahhahahaha.... is it scary that my thought process went in almost the exact same direction? Oh yes. Asians really do smell like cabbage. *Sniffs self*.. Yep..

Rossi.  Jesus doesn't get to practice on his Ducati as much as he used to...see here: http://www.cycleforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=146662&highlight=jesus

Quote from: stllplyswthcars on May 11, 2006, 03:48:50 PMI recently asked my Suzuki dealer about using synthetic oil in my '04 GS.  He said I could't use synthetic becuase of the "wet clutch".  I have some buddies who say it's BS while others believe it.  Anyone out have an opinion or first-hand knowledge?   Thanks, Scott

Buncha smartasses around here...

It's easy for me:  I have two oil leaks...  I' too lazy/cheap to fix them...  Synthetic leaks a lot faster...  No synthetic for me! 

If you search on "Synthetic Oil" you'll find 6 pages of threads on it...

I'd just go with the oil that the manual says to use...  Whatever that is...

Quote from: RVertigo on May 11, 2006, 04:41:42 PM

Quote from: stllplyswthcars on May 11, 2006, 03:48:50 PMI recently asked my Suzuki dealer about using synthetic oil in my '04 GS.  He said I could't use synthetic becuase of the "wet clutch".  I have some buddies who say it's BS while others believe it.  Anyone out have an opinion or first-hand knowledge?   Thanks, Scott

Buncha smartasses around here...

It's easy for me:  I have two oil leaks...  I' too lazy/cheap to fix them...  Synthetic leaks a lot faster...  No synthetic for me! 

If you search on "Synthetic Oil" you'll find 6 pages of threads on it...

I'd just go with the oil that the manual says to use...  Whatever that is...

Honestly there is probably a lot more this has been argued a lot since i have been around, I am still new


Edit : oh oh oh search "oil".  You will learn everything you want to know from gas in oil and fouled plugs to cabling and fork oil 

Well, with my history of cars/bikes I don't have much to add to the argument...    Other than it was cool for the little time I used it in my F.O.R.D.

85 Nissan Pulsar - Leaked Oil - No Synthetic
69 VW bug - Leaked, sprayed, burned, and ate oil - No Synthetic
79 Jeep Wagoneer - Leaked and burned oil - No Synthetic
94 Ford Exploder - Didn't leak when I bought it...  Ran Synthetic for a while and it ran WAY better, smoother, everything you'd ever dream of...  Started leaking, fixed leak...  New leak, fixed leak...  New leak, screw it - No Synthetic
68 H#nda CT90 - Leaked and burned oil - No Synthetic
79 H#nda CT90 - Burned oil - No Synthetic
01 Suzuki GS500 - Leaks oil - No Synthetic[/list]

Quote from: RVertigo on May 11, 2006, 04:50:16 PM
Well, with my history of cars/bikes I don't have much to add to the argument...    Other than it was cool for the little time I used it in my F.O.R.D.

87 Nissan Pulsar - Leaked Oil - No Synthetic
69 VW bug - Leaked, sprayed, burned, and ate oil - No Synthetic
79 Jeep Wagoneer - Leaked and burned oil - No Synthetic
94 Ford Exploder - Didn't leak when I bought it...  Ran Synthetic for a while and it ran WAY better, smoother, everything you'd ever dream of...  Started leaking, fixed leak...  New leak, fixed leak...  New leak, screw it - No Synthetic
68 H#nda CT90 - Leaked and burned oil - No Synthetic
79 H#nda CT90 - Burned oil - No Synthetic
01 Suzuki GS500 - Leaks oil - No Synthetic[/list]

Thats it, you used synthetic in a Ford.  All i have to say is ....... ITS A FORD

Damnit, i hate amd love beer i wanted to quote my own reply

The big G man knows whats up

to answer what has been asked is ... i run simisynecthic stuff in my  bike and have no problem .. i'v heard its not good to start running a full syenthitic on an old cluch ( old being has a few thosand miles on it )  because its  rough on the warn cluch

Quote from: stllplyswthcars on May 11, 2006, 03:48:50 PM
I recently asked my Suzuki dealer about using synthetic oil in my '04 GS.  He said I could't use synthetic becuase of the "wet clutch".  I have some buddies who say it's BS while others believe it.  Anyone out have an opinion or first-hand knowledge?   Thanks, Scott

If you use motorcycle specific synthetic oils designed to work in wet clutch applications you will have no problems.
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"Mobil 1 V-Twin 20W-50 is recommended for four-cycle motorcycles that specify the use of a 20W-50 engine oil. It provides excellent performance in motorcycle engines that are designed with a common engine/transmission lubrication system or where the engine lubrication system is separate from the transmission system. In the case of the latter, follow the manufacturer's recommendation for the type of fluid to be used in the transmission. Mobil 1 V-Twin 20W-50 engine oil is also designed to provide the proper frictional characteristics necessary for wet-clutch engine/transmission systems. Mobil 1 V-Twin 20W-50 exceeds the requirements of API Service Categories SH, SG/CF, CD and has been fully tested, both on laboratory dynamometers and in the field, to provide optimum horsepower and acceleration.

Fully synthetic Mobil 1 motorcycle oils are specifically engineered for use in motorcycles. The formulations are based on the proven technology used in other Mobil 1 automotive products, yet they are optimized for the unique requirements of a motorcycle engine and/or transmission. You can use them with confidence, knowing they will protect your bike in extreme situations where conventional motor oils simply can not stand up, including extended high-speed operation and prolonged idling in summertime traffic. "

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Full synthetic lubricant developed for high performance 4-cycle motorcycles and ATVs, providing excellent engine protection, cleanliness and outstanding clutch and gearbox operation. Special formulation helps prevent clutch slippage and reduces clutch sticking after cold starts. Meets or exceeds: API SF/SG; SH/SJ with JASO MA

Part #: 990A0-10W40-R1Q

Now ask your self a little question: Would Mobil and Suzuki and all of the other motorcycle companies offer synthetic oils if they would harm their products?  Would most if not all motorcycle race teams use synthetic oil if they had nothing to gain from its use?

If you want to have fun go to the Suzuki dealer that told you that you could not use synthetic oil due to your wet clutch and ask him why SUZUKI sells SYNTHETIC OIL.  Ask him to check the price on this part number 990A0-10W40-R1Q and then ask him what this part number is for.

I am not even going to comment on the synthetic oil debate in this thread.

However, I would like to make a motion that TragicImage not be allowed to welcome new members anymore.  Frankly, he sucks at it and should not be part of the welcoming committee   

Cut and Paste.....

"I use a synthetic, no problems."

QuoteAnyone out have an opinion or first-hand knowledge?   Thanks, Scott

Pour some cheap service SF in it and go for a ride.   

Change your oil often and don't flog the thing to death.  Do your maintenace per the manual, and keep a record for future reference.  Take the money you would have spent on $12 a quart oil and "premium" gasoline and put it into an overhaul fund.