Quote from: MrDan on May 23, 2006, 09:52:03 AM

Quote from: mike_mike on May 23, 2006, 09:50:02 AM
I'm about ready to come join you folks in USA 

uhhh .. we're closed

Quote from: MrDan on May 23, 2006, 09:52:03 AM

Quote from: mike_mike on May 23, 2006, 09:50:02 AM
I'm about ready to come join you folks in USA 

uhhh .. we're closed

That's not what the several hundred thousand illegal immigrants are saying... they got in, and they're still there! 

Conversation between Illegal Immigrant in the US, and the US government:

Illegal Immigrant: "Hi, I'm an illegal immigrant and I think that I should be granted status and be allowed to stay and work in your country... so I'm going to walk thru the street with flags and signs voicing this..."

US Government: "Uhh... do you have any 'Nucular' weapons on you... or are you in any way trying to take our freedom away? Cause we're already busy fighting a useless war against another nation's people."


No offense to any of my neighbors to the south... You guys are cool as far as I'm concerned... its just too easy to poke fun at government... on either side of the border!!! 

I think we need to get the iliegals the hell outta here! I'm sorry, but it's true. They come over here, work under the table, take our money back to where ever they came from and spend it there. And while their here, they stop at the doctors office and have a checkup, have a kid, now he's a legal citizen (why?) then they come and go as they please. And they say they do jobs that americans won't do? I call BS!  . Also, maybe some american's wouldn't be soo lazy if they weren't getting their unemployment and/or food stamps and so forth!

or we could just setup posts at the U.S. borders, with a scoped high powered rifle and then try and watch them canadiens cross the border!!   

ehh just kidding ... 

Quote from: Matty B 500 on May 23, 2006, 06:33:37 PM
or we could just setup posts at the U.S. borders, with a scoped high powered rifle and then try and watch them canadiens cross the border!!   

Hell go for it! As far as I'm concerned... if they have a reason to cross the border illegally... I don't want em on my side of the border either!

(PS: I think you have more worries about illegal immigrants coming in thru your border to the south than the one up north  )

 

Quote from: joedude on May 23, 2006, 05:21:54 PM

Quote from: MrDan on May 23, 2006, 09:52:03 AM

Quote from: mike_mike on May 23, 2006, 09:50:02 AM
I'm about ready to come join you folks in USA 

uhhh .. we're closed

That's not what the several hundred thousand illegal immigrants are saying... they got in, and they're still there! 

Yeah .. uhh .. just the northern border is closed.  You'll have to go around.

Anyone seen the news in the past few weeks.... I didn't see any Canadian flags flying during those street protests by the immigrants... There was some red and white... but it was accompanied with some green... 

I don't know why someone would want to immigrate illegally to the US from Canada... unless they weren't from canada in the first place    or if they were running from the authorities I can however understand why someone would want to jump the border from Mexico... where the conditions aren't quite that great for the average joe.

It's not the first time that I've heard an American say that Canadians were trying to jump the border... I figure its just another lie that your government/media is feeding the public to increase fear among the public and in turn increase general pointless hatred and racism.

I think its funny to spend millions, send thousands of our soldiers (and have too many of them die) trying to bring civilisation as we know it to a country which is ruled by religion, where, a man is currently in court, charged with changing religion and is facing the death penalty... BECAUSE HE DOESN'T HAVE THE SAME BELIEFS!!! Freedom as we know it, will never happen there... and it seems that freedom as we are 'fighting for' is no longer present in our own civilization. Racism and hatred between cultures has brought down the freedoms that we believe in (but seldom practice - Freedom of speech and religion for you, means respecting others' speech and religion - Kinda like what happens on this board... )

I'm not just attacking your government... our armies are there too

Why can't we all just get along?




What was the subject of this thread again???

Chris_B,

Not sure if you've already tried, nor if the 25+ thing comes in effect with these guys, but give www.ridersplus.com a call and see what they say - can't hurt.  Don't give up on the GS (or any bike) yet!  Good luck.

Quote from: joedude on May 23, 2006, 08:08:15 PM
Why can't we all just get along?

Darn straight.

I heard something about mexico is going to sue the US if we start cracking down on illegal aliens....? I think that's what it was. Sue us? HAH!

Quote from: joedude on May 23, 2006, 08:08:15 PM
Anyone seen the news in the past few weeks.... I didn't see any Canadian flags flying during those street protests by the immigrants... There was some red and white... but it was accompanied with some green... 

I don't know why someone would want to immigrate illegally to the US from Canada... unless they weren't from canada in the first place    or if they were running from the authorities I can however understand why someone would want to jump the border from Mexico... where the conditions aren't quite that great for the average joe.

It's not the first time that I've heard an American say that Canadians were trying to jump the border... I figure its just another lie that your government/media is feeding the public to increase fear among the public and in turn increase general pointless hatred and racism.

I think its funny to spend millions, send thousands of our soldiers (and have too many of them die) trying to bring civilisation as we know it to a country which is ruled by religion, where, a man is currently in court, charged with changing religion and is facing the death penalty... BECAUSE HE DOESN'T HAVE THE SAME BELIEFS!!! Freedom as we know it, will never happen there... and it seems that freedom as we are 'fighting for' is no longer present in our own civilization. Racism and hatred between cultures has brought down the freedoms that we believe in (but seldom practice - Freedom of speech and religion for you, means respecting others' speech and religion - Kinda like what happens on this board... )

I'm not just attacking your government... our armies are there too

Why can't we all just get along?




What was the subject of this thread again???

It's diatrbies like this that lead us to close the northern border.  sheesh

To address the on-topic question you raised though, the reason all the Canadians are coming to America is for our (relatively) cheap insurance rates, our watered down beer, and our unerring sarcasm.

400 and some change for a year on 2006 gsxr 600 the gs was 180 a year

So this seems to have gone a bit offtopic, I guess that can be expected..this IS GSTwins after all. I contact my insurance comapny and they said that indeed the GS has been moved back to where it was before, and a new bill will be coming in the mail shortly for around $2500. Still a little steep, but thats Ontario insurance. I'll check out riders plus though.

Now that you've explained how Canadian insurance works, it makes sense why yours costs so much.  If you're own insurance company pays for you to get fixed up, it's no wonder it costs so much on a bike.  Think about it.  You're a lot more likely to sustain serious injury in a bike accident rather than a car accident.  If you're company is paying your medical bills, it's just gonna have to charge bikers more.  Here in the USA, we must have some bikers in the legislature- all the cages are paying the extra premium for us 

BaoQingTian, I can actually inform you, that here in DK, we have to pay shitloads of $ for our 2 wheels. (I had to pay around 5150US $ for my GS500E from 93 with 50.500km on it - And that's cheap).

Apart from that we have our taxes and shaZam! (I pay 40% in taxes), which pays for all medical expenses in case something goes wrong, and we need medical treatment. That covers in most of Europe, and i think it covers in the states too, if im not there for more than 1 month at a time.

Also, i have to pay 500$ a year for insurance on my GS. Where a car would be 2000$ a year, that is as a newly started driver btw.

So maybe the canadians are just getting buttf*cked!

Just my 5 cents.

Greetz, shik.

Chris_B,

If you haven't gone through the riders plus website yet - just a little background on them.  They're a broker out of T.O. but service a bunch of areas all over Canada.  They specialize in motorcycles and are run by riders, so they 'understand' us better then other insurance companies who don't get into or shy away from bikes.

Kingsway used to be their exclusive insurance provider up until this year.  Their relationship with riders plus ended, because riders plus introduced another insurance company, Echelon General (a stable Canadian company and their new exclusive provider) in order to keep their rates competitive.  Kingsway didn't like that and cancelled riders plus.  This is all documented on their website.  

This part I'm interpreting, but I read that as Kingsway fearing not be able to be competitive and loose business (ie: rates were higher then the competition) -  why else would anyone turn away business?  

Anyway, they feel that Echelon would equal or come in cheaper then plans offered by Kingsway (also documented on their website), which is why I made the suggestion originally.  I understand every individual profile is different, but thought it worth a shot anyway.  Again, good luck.  

But in Canada they have "free" health care. So what's it matter what happens on a bike or in a car, doesn't that health care pay for any injuries?

Quote from: BaoQingTian on May 24, 2006, 02:48:35 PM
Now that you've explained how Canadian insurance works, it makes sense why yours costs so much.  If you're own insurance company pays for you to get fixed up, it's no wonder it costs so much on a bike.  Think about it.  You're a lot more likely to sustain serious injury in a bike accident rather than a car accident.  If you're company is paying your medical bills, it's just gonna have to charge bikers more.  Here in the USA, we must have some bikers in the legislature- all the cages are paying the extra premium for us 

Quote from: porsche4786 on May 24, 2006, 05:10:37 PM
But in Canada they have "free" health care. So what's it matter what happens on a bike or in a car, doesn't that health care pay for any injuries?

Umm no its not 'free'... someone has to pay for it

In most cases, our taxes pay for the small stuff... some provinces charge a yearly fee... but there's a limit to that too....