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Inverted forks, why?

Started by bargovic, June 10, 2006, 06:01:55 PM

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werase643

Quote from: makenzie71 on June 10, 2006, 10:06:23 PM

You need a bearing kit...it'll cost about $75 as a whole for good bearings if you have a later GS.  The earlier 500's have ball bearings iirc...the newer E's should use rollers.

Bikebandit and ronayers both carry headlight mounts that stick an SV style 7" light to the GSXR inverted forks.  Sign up on TLzone and PM DRZDoug about how he mounted the guages...not too sure.

Oh yeah...and it's "inverted" forks.  There's nothing "upside down" about them.

mak, all GS500's came with tapered roller bearings in the steering stem


http://houseofmotorcycles.bikebandit.com/partsbandit/oem_schematic_view~schem_dept_id~723994~section_dept_id~1~section_dept_name~OEM+%28Stock%29+Parts~dept_type_id~2~model_dept_year~1989~model_dept_mfr~Suzuki~model_dept_id~703240~model_dept_name~GS500EK.asp

as shown in the 89 parts schematic

and they are fine for reuse in a GS
also bike bandit lists them for about 45 bucks

want Iain's money to support my butt in kens shop

makenzie71

yeah they're fine to be reused...but not if you fit an unmodified stem from a different bike through them.  That's what I was sayings...Oh and I got my 500's mixed up...the early EX500's had ball bearings.

dgyver

Quote from: makenzie71 on June 11, 2006, 07:23:21 PM
The stem really needs to be turned down?  I thought it fit through the stock steering head...?  I know two people who've got GSXR forks (late 90's 750 on one, K4 1000 on the other) and I could have sworn they said they only have to get a different bearing set.

It does fit through the head but if you want to use the GS bearings, the stem needs to be turned. Plus it is too long. I shortened it by about 20mm (just a rough dimension).
Common sense in not very common.

werase643

And the kewlest part was ....
Dgyver did 2 gsxr stems at one time
therefore my bike is looking good with the srad front on it.

missed ya yesterday for lunch,  D.

we just drove on thru and got home about 5
want Iain's money to support my butt in kens shop

makenzie71

Quote from: dgyver on June 12, 2006, 04:56:30 AM
It does fit through the head but if you want to use the GS bearings, the stem needs to be turned. Plus it is too long. I shortened it by about 20mm (just a rough dimension).

Yup...just got off the phone with one of my buds a bit ago and he said the same...he said it was cheaper for him to just get bearings to fit it.  He's gonna get the part numbers for the bearings fior me later.

Jake D

There really is no difference between saying upside down and inverted.  They mean the same thing.  As a matter of fact, invert means to reverse the position or turn upside down.    But whatever. 




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If it bouces woth e wheel it is unsprung, if it bounces with the bike it is sprung mass.

No tolerance left to exaplain, just know I am right ok?!?!?
Rich, RIP.

werase643

Quote from: makenzie71 on June 12, 2006, 07:49:42 AM
Quote from: dgyver on June 12, 2006, 04:56:30 AM
It does fit through the head but if you want to use the GS bearings, the stem needs to be turned. Plus it is too long. I shortened it by about 20mm (just a rough dimension).

Yup...just got off the phone with one of my buds a bit ago and he said the same...he said it was cheaper for him to just get bearings to fit it.  He's gonna get the part numbers for the bearings fior me later.

MAK, DO NOT START TALKIN EX CONVERSIONS HERE!!!!!!!!!!
parts from kaw/honda swap easily
same for yam/suz
when we are talkin front ends
the kaw lower has a 28mm ID and the yam/suz has a 30mm
you will start confusing the masses
want Iain's money to support my butt in kens shop

octane

There's a great stem/bearing conversion chart here: http://www.ohiocaferacers.com/  Just click on the tech tips link.

werase643

Quote from: octane on June 14, 2006, 05:56:04 AM
There's a great stem/bearing conversion chart here: http://www.ohiocaferacers.com/  Just click on the tech tips link.

dan that is a good site....
Buff  MOTORED ME down the front straight at VIR on that ratty CB350 of his!!!!
he can ride the wheels off that bike

but there are some new sizes that are at brg distributors....that have hon ID and SUZ OD
came out about 3-4 yrs ago....or somebody actually searched and figured a standard bearing for some tractor works on a bike conversion
want Iain's money to support my butt in kens shop

Stephen072774

Quote from: bargovic on June 10, 2006, 06:01:55 PM
It has inverted forks, which i think look awesome.  But whats the benefit of having them over a regular fork ? more travel ? And has anyone put them on a GS?

I'm not sure about other bikes, but the USD forks on my drz are 4-way adjustable.  Its nice to be able to dial in your suspention, but having so much adjustment can be a little overwhelming...  I might be playing with different settings for years :laugh:
2005 DRZ400SM
2001 GS, sold to 3imo

werase643

most modern street USD
are fully adjustable for preload/compression/rebound

i do not think the hyosung is adjustable.....but it isn't really a modern street bike
want Iain's money to support my butt in kens shop

octane

Quote from: werase643 on June 14, 2006, 06:21:18 AM
Quote from: octane on June 14, 2006, 05:56:04 AM
There's a great stem/bearing conversion chart here: http://www.ohiocaferacers.com/  Just click on the tech tips link.

dan that is a good site....
Buff  MOTORED ME down the front straight at VIR on that ratty CB350 of his!!!!
he can ride the wheels off that bike

but there are some new sizes that are at brg distributors....that have hon ID and SUZ OD
came out about 3-4 yrs ago....or somebody actually searched and figured a standard bearing for some tractor works on a bike conversion

I searched high and low for a bearing that would have allowed me to swap the 'busa front end onto my XS11 without having a stem made - NOTHING! The bottom bearing is the same, the top was different, but the OD/ID was an odd combination and I couldn't find any tapered bearings with the right measurements. I could have had some manufactured in China though! Not sure what I'd do with the 4,999 bearings I'd have left over though...damn minimum orders! I ended up having a stem made. It's damn pretty too...and kinda pricey...too bad I can't even look at it now that it's installed!

makenzie71

Quotewerase643
MAK, DO NOT START TALKIN EX CONVERSIONS HERE!!!!!!!!!!
parts from kaw/honda swap easily
same for yam/suz
when we are talkin front ends
the kaw lower has a 28mm ID and the yam/suz has a 30mm
you will start confusing the masses

Only one here confused is you, man...:dunno_white:  Only reference made to the EX's was when I got confused on early model bearing styles.

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