For the cost to do all these and with the risk to damaging the bike it would be far cheaper to grind the bolt off and put a new axel bolt on there.

That's why I said, "Get your...."  If you don't have it, then it's not going to save money.  It definitely worked though.  However, I had a nice, sturdy frame to attach the comealong to, the trailer on which the dune buggy was sitting.

You need a propane torch.  Or a Bernzomatic type deal with the gas bottle.  I've been messing with bikes for 35 years, and have never had a problem like this taking off an axle nut.  It must be rusted up, or way, way, way overtightened.  Like I said before, a long breaker bar, over the end of a box end wrench.  You shouldn't have to beat on it with a hammer or anything like that.  And when you reassemble it, if you don't loctite it, anti-seize it. 

 

I had the stealership do a chain adjustment for me so I could learn from them, and I know they used an air wrench on the axle nut... They must've WAY over torqued it... So I guess I'll just ride it to the stealership tomorrow and risk whatever could happen from what I've tried so far. I don't think I need to worry about the lack of cotter pin on the axle right now, anyway... I'm not wasting any more money on new tools... At least I've got an impact driver and a big socket now, I guess...

Good choice. If they put it on let them take it off.  

Now we are getting somewhere. Its possible the Dealer has tightened the nut up with the air wrench set way to high and as a result the thread was strained when the nut reached its limit of travel along the bolt, leading to it stripping or picking-up. Thats the problem with air-tools, you loose the `feel`, They are good for undoing tight fastenings but but not tightening them, there are plenty of Mechanics and Engineers who dont use them for this same reason.

Loctite is a reactive adhesive; once hardened you can't melt it. It will however, break down at about 120 to 140°C (irreversible). That is awfully hot (well beyond boiling point); I imagine getting the rear axle in its built in state to that temperature would require nothing short of a blow torch. (The gas / ambient air type should be enough.)

Queso, if you tried to get that nut loose with a monkey wrench I can imagine you not getting it loose. That wrench has, what? a 10" handle. Not much torque to be got with that.

Well, the dealer did torque it on with an air wrench, and I didn't see them put any chemicals on it (loctite or otherwise). I think it's safe to assume the mechanic put it on too tight. I'm going to see if I can make it there tonight to get them to loosen it. If the threads are damaged, I expect them to get me a new axle and castle nut.

On a side note - I got my progressive springs today!! Those I'm just going to have the dealer install, cuz I don't feel like messing with all that compressed stuff, and I have no one to help me install them.

Man, the springs are pretty damned easy to install, and you don't have to take the bottom bolt (the one that requires an impact wrench) out unless  you need to replace the fork seals.

Quote from: Egaeus on June 12, 2006, 08:29:57 AM
Man, the springs are pretty damned easy ... unless  you need to replace the fork seals.

Which I do...

Well then, it's a good excuse to get a light-duty compressor and impact wrench.  Seriously, shop around.  You might just find that it's about the same price or cheaper than paying a mechanic to do it.

If you can get it to a local shop (gas station, lawn mower repair, etc) have them hit it with an air wrench, then tighten it enough to get back home. I tried for years to loosen a Lawn Boy mower blade nut, then took it to a repair shop. They not only loosened it with the air wrench, they sharpened the goldarn blade for $5.00.

Quote from: Egaeus on June 12, 2006, 10:43:26 AM
Well then, it's a good excuse to get a light-duty compressor and impact wrench.  Seriously, shop around.  You might just find that it's about the same price or cheaper than paying a mechanic to do it.

I think sears sells a small air compressor and all your basic air tools (air ratchet, impact wrench, and an air hammer IIRC) for pretty cheap, like $200 or so... otherwise you could always rent one from walmart 

 

I'm a lil upset with the stealership... They closed at least 45 minutes early today, so after the 40 minute drive to get there (having left work early to make sure I get there before they claim to close) THEY WERE CLOSED. NO ONE there.... So, the nut THEY overtightened will have to remain stuck  until next time... ARGHHGHGRHGJRHGKFHSGKHBGFEI&@T*&@$*&@%(&FT(*R@(YR(....

I can't afford a set of air tools right now... Heck, I can barely afford to rent them. Not worth it for one freakin nut the stealership is responsible for anyway. At least I got my first dose of lane splitting. Some idiotic little fender bender held up beach blvd traffic for miles, giving me plenty of oppurtunity to get some experience. And being incredibly pissed at the time gave me the nerve to do it  It would've been around an hour or more by cage, but I made it back home in less than half that 

Quote from: Queso on June 12, 2006, 06:35:50 PM
I can't afford a set of air tools right now... Heck, I can barely afford to rent them. Not worth it for one freakin nut the stealership is responsible for anyway.

We were talking about the forks.  Seriously, you can get a small compressor and impact wrench for like $140, and that's about what you'll get charged to replace the fork seals.  Oh and a proper 8mm impact hex bit will be $10. 

Wait - a 40 minute drive away, and you didn't call to make sure they would be open?  (Or let them know you were on your way?) 

At least you got some lane-splitting practice out of it!

Quote from: Kerry on June 12, 2006, 06:53:40 PM
Wait - a 40 minute drive away, and you didn't call to make sure they would be open?  (Or let them know you were on your way?) 

At least you got some lane-splitting practice out of it!

Nope, didn't call... Assumed they stuck to their posted hours. And it's only 40 minutes because of traffic and stoplights... It's like 10-15 miles...