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Started by The Buddha, October 19, 2006, 05:15:07 AM

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The Buddha

OK this has to be the lamest beer question ever ...
I am looking for a unfiltered Wheat beer.
Here is where it gets tricky ... I dont want no boutique brews or any fancy ass available only in the shadow of the 13th moon at this exact location on this date and time only ... and it will cost an arm and 2 legs type deal.
AKA - walmart ... or OK mid level grocery stores ...
Also I'd like to know what is a pale ale, and what is a Bock or a porter and what is a malt liquor.
In short maybe one of thise is wheat and unfiltered ???
Cool.
Srinath.
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Quote from: seshadri_srinath on October 19, 2006, 05:15:07 AM
OK this has to be the lamest beer question ever ...
I am looking for a unfiltered Wheat beer.
Here is where it gets tricky ... I dont want no boutique brews or any fancy ass available only in the shadow of the 13th moon at this exact location on this date and time only ... and it will cost an arm and 2 legs type deal.
AKA - walmart ... or OK mid level grocery stores ...
Also I'd like to know what is a pale ale, and what is a Bock or a porter and what is a malt liquor.
In short maybe one of thise is wheat and unfiltered ???
Cool.
Srinath.

Ok, I'll do my best.  I don't know crap about motorcycles but I do know crap about beer.  :thumb:

Asking for an unfiltered wheat is like asking for a factory GS500F with fairings.  Wheat beer is very rarely filtered because part of the characteristics of a good wheat beer is cloudiness.  Unfortunately for you, I don't know of any macro-produced wheat beers.  The following are all wheat beers.
Wit (means "wheat".....Blue Moon, Sam Adams White, Hoegarden are the big timers and these should be pretty easy to find
Heife  Weizen - it's another belgian beer.  It's known for it's banana and clove aromas.  Big names are Paulaner and Franziskaner
Personally, I don't think these are the kinds of wheat you are looking for.

I think you want just an american unfiltered wheat.  In that case, you aren't going to be able to find it without going to some fancy ass place (also known as a beer store).  Your best bet is to get something local.  I think you live in Cali and I don't know many breweries out there as I live PA but I assure you that have some of the best.  I'll try to list a few you might be able to find easily.
Fat Weasel Unfiltered Wheat - Paso Robles CA (Steinhaus Brewery)
Sam Adams Summer Ale
Sierra Nevada Wheat Beer
In the Heat Wheat - Flying Dog
Anchor Summer Beer - Anchor Brewing
High Rollers Wheat - Anderson Valley Brewing Co (Boonville CA)

If you are ever in Jake D's neck of the woods, Boulevard makes a great wheat.

Those are a few I found that should be fairly easy to get on the west coast.  The only problem is that it's a fairly seasonal brew and we are kind of out of the season (summer). 

A pale ale is broken down into 2 segments.  APA (American Pale Ale) and EPA (English).  The APA's tend to be a bit stronger with a little more bite to them than the english counterparts.  The bite or bitterness, is from the hops and APA bite is usually a little citrusy.  APA is my favorite beer style.  Some good APA's are:
Sierra Nevada - actually that's all I'll list.  It's a great gate into the world of APA's.  If you don't like it, APA is probably not your cup of tea.

The british ales tend to be a bit more malty (sweet) and....buttery.  The balance is more towards the malt rather than the hops.
Bass Pale Ale
Fullers Pale Ale
These should both be really easy to get.

There is also an IPA with is an India Pale Ale.  It's basically and APA on steriods.  Long time ago while the brits were in India, they had no beer to drink.  They kept trying to import their EPA but it kept going bad due to the long voyage.  To fix the problem, they juiced up the hops for perservatives, and up'd the alcohol % to kill bacteria.
Sierra Nevada makes a horrible IPA....don't try it.
Other than that IPA's are awesome.

Oh, and rarely is a lager darker than a pale ale.  99% of lagers are Budlight Millerlight and so on.  There are a few dark lagers like Yeungling and some other german lagers which will be discussed next.  The Bock.

There are also a few kinds of Bock.  Maibock and Dopplebock.  Bock is german for Goat and it's brewed as a sign of better things to come (winter to summer), or during the sign of the Capricorn.  It's a spring beer and it will be really hard to find any bock right now.  Bocks are usually strong, malty beverages without a lot of hops (bitterness).  The color is usually darker...like a brown or amber and it's really malty.  It usually has a pretty crisp taste and that's due to the "lagering" process in which after the beer is fermented, it goes through a process where the beer is stored for a few months at just above freezing.  It really cleans the beer out.

Ok, I realized that I'm writing a book.  Anyway, a pale is very different from a wheat and a bock.  They are all very different styles and I'd suggest to try them all.  If you want more info let me know. 

disclaimer - this is mostly from memory so I may have some minor glitches.

LPC2104

Oh yeah, go to www.beeradvocate.com to find some more wheats near you.

Grainbelt

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Quote from: seshadri_srinath on October 19, 2006, 05:15:07 AM
OK this has to be the lamest beer question ever ...
I am looking for a unfiltered Wheat beer.

Closest you'll get to without going boutique or weird import is Boulevard Wheat Ale, made in Kansas City. Damn good stuff. I know we got it in MN, I think their distribution is pretty good.

Quote from: seshadri_srinath on October 19, 2006, 05:15:07 AMAlso I'd like to know what is a pale ale, and what is a Bock or a porter and what is a malt liquor. In short maybe one of thise is wheat and unfiltered ???

pale ale - Sierra Nevada Pale Ale seems to be the standard. There are others.

*India Pale Ale - made by the british back in the day, could be shipped to india without preservatives. Still made today due to unique taste. I think they taste shitty.

bock - german, usually quite malty and strong. doppelbock = 'double' bock, those are even stronger.

porter - these are good, but can be heavy.

Malt liquor - go buy a 40 of mickeys, drink it, and let me know how you feel in the morning.

Unfiltered beers: dont filter the yeast and grain out when the fermentation process is complete. There is a layer of silt at the bottom of the bottle.

'Wheat' beer is kind of a silly term - they all have a certain amount of wheat, barley, or some other grain used. Wheat beers can be all wheat or mostly wheat, and have a different flavour to them. *sidenote - budweiser uses rice, becuase it is cheap and shitty.

In closing: I drink ales and stouts almost exclusively. Lagers don't do much for me. Pilsners and 'light' beers are for being outside when it is 100 degrees in the shade.

Edit: I messed up on the bocks. Go to wikipedia.com and search for the different types you're looking at, I used it to clean up my bock entry and there was good stuff there.


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mmmm weat beer is good.... i want some now damnit .. 2 more hours to lunch ...
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Grainbelt

Quote from: natedawg120 on October 19, 2006, 07:33:24 AM
mmmm weat beer is good.... i want some now damnit .. 2 more hours to lunch ...

yeah, i've got a sixer of stella artois in my fridge thats calling my name. Its 8:30 here....

Thanks, srinath. Now my day is screwed.
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LPC2104

Grainbelt, you really think Bocks are hoppy???

In my experience, I can barely detect the hops.



Edit - Oops...I missed your edit.

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Quote from: Grainbelt on October 19, 2006, 07:38:49 AM
Quote from: natedawg120 on October 19, 2006, 07:33:24 AM
mmmm weat beer is good.... i want some now damnit .. 2 more hours to lunch ...

yeah, i've got a sixer of stella artois in my fridge thats calling my name. Its 8:30 here....

Thanks, srinath. Now my day is screwed.

Now I'm really confused.....I thought you didn't like lagers?

Destro

Boulevard also makes an excellent pale ale (my personal favorite) and has recently started bottling its Stout.  I didn't know if they were more widely distributed than just the KC area. Another good brewery is New Belgium, the maker of Fat Tire and Sunshine wheat.  Again, don't know how close they get to the coasts.  BTW, they have started selling Boulevard beer in 20 packs here, yahoo!  :cheers: :thumb:
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Grainbelt

Quote from: LPC2104 on October 19, 2006, 07:41:43 AM
Quote from: Grainbelt on October 19, 2006, 07:38:49 AM
Quote from: natedawg120 on October 19, 2006, 07:33:24 AM
mmmm weat beer is good.... i want some now damnit .. 2 more hours to lunch ...

yeah, i've got a sixer of stella artois in my fridge thats calling my name. Its 8:30 here....

Thanks, srinath. Now my day is screwed.

Now I'm really confused.....I thought you didn't like lagers?

I don't, but I have some leftovers from when a buddy was here, and with the leftovers currently in the fridge, a lager will work.  The rest of the fridge is a strong irish ale made in calgary, a hoppy wheat ale called 'grasshopper', and a sixer of bass.
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Sunshine Wheat (New Belgium) is one of my favorites.  It is spiced with orange and coriander.  Very good.

Goose Island (Chicago) makes a great wheat called 312.  Definitely a good beer, but hard to get a hold of.

Boulevard's what is an excellent beer.

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LPC2104

I had the Blvd Wheat for the first time this summer.  I live in PA and they don't ship this far east.  I went to St. Louis for a cubs/cards series and tried it at Beale on Broadway.  It was an instant winner.  I wish I could get it here in PA, although Troegs and Magic Hat also make phenominal wheats.

Destro

Sounds like we may need to plan a "Smoky and the Bandit" tirip to the East Coast!! Turd, Jake?!?
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Good idea, Destro!   I'll drive the TA, you drive the big rig.

If any of you guys are ever in KC, tour the Boulevard brewery.  Good times.

I've been to the New Belgium Brewery in Fort Collins, CO.  You can fill up a used growler for like 5 bucks.  Fat Tire doesn't travel well, but from the brewery it is devine.  Their porter is also amazing straight from the line.  There is nothing better than REALLY fresh beer.  When I worked for Budweiser (package route) I would get one day old Busch Light and it was amazing. 

Also, Red Hook has a good pale ale.  Or maybe I'm thinking of their ESB.

Quick: what does ESB stand for??
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Quote from: LPC2104 on October 19, 2006, 06:55:39 AM
I think you live in Cali and I don't know many breweries out there as I live PA but I assure you that have some of the best.  I'll try to list a few you might be able to find easily.
Fat Weasel Unfiltered Wheat - Paso Robles CA (Steinhaus Brewery)
Sam Adams Summer Ale
Sierra Nevada Wheat Beer
In the Heat Wheat - Flying Dog
Anchor Summer Beer - Anchor Brewing
High Rollers Wheat - Anderson Valley Brewing Co (Boonville CA)

Srinath is in the Carolina's somewhere (South Carolina perhaps?)...
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Quote from: Jake D on October 19, 2006, 09:12:56 AM
Red Hook has a good pale ale.  Or maybe I'm thinking of their ESB.

Quick: what does ESB stand for??

Extra Special Bitter or Extra Strong Bitter.  Ironically, it's not that bitter.


Destro

Quote from: Jake D on October 19, 2006, 09:12:56 AM
Good idea, Destro!   I'll drive the TA, you drive the big rig.

No, we'll do it in style... Superhawk and a Silverado!  Of course we would have to stop every 100 miles for gas, so free up a week to get out there!  :laugh:
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