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Holy Crap... Buying a helmet

Started by Johnny5, November 16, 2006, 09:05:09 AM

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bettingpython



$349 plus $20 shipping early release of the 07 RF1000 diabolic TC3.

I ride inappropiately fast. Therefore I purchase gear appropriate for my riding style. Modular helmets do not provide the level of protection a full shell offers. This same helmet at my local dealership is $600 find the size and model that fit's you best then hit the internet.

I am pleased with the venting of the RF1000 line, it has excellent airflow across the top of my head with it opened up and closed with just the chin vent open it does an excellent job of defogging my visor with the breath guard and chin cover installed, yet still keeps my noggin comfy on my chilly fall excursions.
Why didn't you just go the whole way and buy me a f@#king Kawasaki you bastards.

yassensei

I ride with a HJC CL-Max modular (flipup) helmet. I tried on some of the full-face helmets, but i found i would have to take my glasses off and push them on through the face-hole after i put the helmet on. Since both my primary and backup eyeglasses have titanium frames (expensive as hell, but worth it when I get hit in the face--I play semi-hardcore volleyball   ;) ) I can't push them under the padding without pretzeling up. The pretzel factor doesn't hurt the frames, but it makes them hard as hell to get them on my face straight.

I'll continue to ride with the modular. it's either that or ride blind.  :icon_lol:

Newbie rider, 2005 GS500F, Unmodified as yet. Working on lighting first.

pantablo

QuoteI ride inappropiately fast.

I like that...
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Quote from: makenzie71 on August 21, 2006, 09:47:40 PM...not like normal sex, either...like sex with chicks.

bettingpython

Quote from: pantablo on November 19, 2006, 11:48:30 PM
QuoteI ride inappropiately fast.

I like that...

Ammended,

I ride inappropriately fast, when my wife is not riding with me,

My wife passed her MSF and is getting her endorsement today so I will have to slow down.
Why didn't you just go the whole way and buy me a f@#king Kawasaki you bastards.

Johnny5

OK, so I've tried on a bunch of new helmets.  I tried Shoei, Arai, and Scorpion, KBC, and HJC so far.

The HJC helmets fit my head the best, with the KBC second.  I loved the scorpion EXO-700 helmet, but it just squeezed my face like a grape, LOL... same with the Arai and Shoei.  There was one Shoei I tried that fit better, I guess it's made for rounder heads/faces, but it was $700 bucks. Interestingly enough, the Shoei and Arai's I had to put on the mediums and they were to small, yet the HJC I had to go with a small.

Looks like I'm going to go with an HJC, now I just need to find the best deal on a color scheme that matches Azteca Orange!  I'll probably do the matte grey/black like the CL-SP Raven.
1998 GS500e - Azteca Orange, V&H pipes, K&N

bettingpython

remember that Shoei and Arai make more than 1 shell shape, the RF1000 is just one of Shoei's models the X-11 and the TZR both have different shell shapes and fit different heads. Arai has the quantum and corsair..probably another model that I am not aware of. And Just an FYI on the question of price vs. protection IMHO you get what you pay for. Just my experience. Then again I have to remember that I travel at times considerably faster than the GS is capable of going.

Everybody remmber this formula for impact energy calculations, energy equals mass times velocity squared?

The lower price end of the Scorpion, KBC, and HJC helmets are not good enough to protect my head in my opinion. Some of those helmet's just meet the bare minimum for a D.O.T. certification.
Why didn't you just go the whole way and buy me a f@#king Kawasaki you bastards.

bettingpython

I can now attest to the crash worthiness of the RF1000, my 954 misbehaved today and highsided me hammered my head hard enough to clean my clock and knock me out for a couple of seconds. gear is good this was 15mph and I'd be dead or severely brain damaged without a helmet. So tooling around you neighborhood is not a good reason not to wear a helmet. This was less than a block from my house.
Why didn't you just go the whole way and buy me a f@#king Kawasaki you bastards.

Budrick320

Wow that is a shock to me. I always go around my block without a helmet usually after I change my oil or tighten the chain. Now it is helmet all the time.
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bettingpython

Quote from: Budrick320 on November 21, 2006, 09:11:45 AM
Wow that is a shock to me. I always go around my block without a helmet usually after I change my oil or tighten the chain. Now it is helmet all the time.

Many people make that mistake, and pay for it dearly, I knew a guy who was goofing around and sitting on the hood of a friends car as he was pulling in to park. He died as a result of that, he slid off the hood of the car when the driver hit his brakes at 3mph and he slid from the hood of the car and hit his head on a curb.

Anytime you test ride a bike after maintenance you are at great risk simply because you may have forgotten something simple that can cause the bike to misbehave and go down.

Just my .02 though.
Why didn't you just go the whole way and buy me a f@#king Kawasaki you bastards.

Alphamazing

Quote from: Budrick320 on November 21, 2006, 09:11:45 AM
Wow that is a shock to me. I always go around my block without a helmet usually after I change my oil or tighten the chain. Now it is helmet all the time.

How is it shocking? Most accidents happen within a few blocks from home, according to pretty much any motorcycle accident survey.
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jen_

I'm having a heck of a time getting a helmet that fits.  I started with an HJC CL-14, after about 3 months it had packed out, and now wiggles around on my head.  Then I got the pink Icon mainframe.  It fits Ok, but it's hard and noisy.  Got a gift certificate and went shopping for an Arai.  The Arai Profile fit great--that is, the packed out one that 100 people have tossed around fit great.  I ordered one.  Damn, the large is too big and the medium is too small.  It'll pack out, they said.  Even after 2 months the pads are still like a vise on my head.  I'm gonna try to order  the smaller replacement pads from Arai, cause I really like the color and the way the visor works, and it's all buggy and chipped now, so they're not gonna take it back. :mad: :mad:
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bettingpython

The mistake you made with Arai was ordering it, an Arai dealer is supposed to carry a variety of different pads. Once you find the shell which fits the shape of your head and the appropriate size is determined,an Arai is custom fitted specifically for you. I ride with lots of people who wear them and they buy exclusively from local shops who are certified dealers. There is also some warranty coverage available that is not offered or honored if you purchase your helmet online.

I would suggest going to a local Arai dealer and see if they can help you fit your shell.
Why didn't you just go the whole way and buy me a f@#king Kawasaki you bastards.

Chilly Willy

Quote from: Budrick320 on November 21, 2006, 09:11:45 AM
Wow that is a shock to me. I always go around my block without a helmet usually after I change my oil or tighten the chain. Now it is helmet all the time.

Yeah, me too.  +1 on wearing helmets at all times while on the bike. 

Glad to hear you're ok.

Chilly
94 GS500, Instrument LEDs and Speedo/Tach LEDs, Gel Seat, Kisan Headlight Modulator, Tail Light LEDs, Kat 6 rear shock, Plexi 3 Fairing, SW Motech Case Guards, SV Mirrors

jen_

I did buy my Arai at a shop. Del Amo Motorsports. By ordering, I ment that they didn't have a Profile-Medium in stock so they had to order it.  When it came in, I tried it on, and it felt tight.  They said it would pack out, and I was worried about that because my HJC did that.  They said I could possibly have to switch the pads, but they didn't have any in stock and they'd have to order those too.  Fack, and this shop is like 2-3 hours from my house, so I didn't want to order anything else there.
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Johnny5

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Quote from: bettingpython
I can now attest to the crash worthiness of the RF1000, my 954 misbehaved today and highsided me hammered my head hard enough to clean my clock and knock me out for a couple of seconds. gear is good this was 15mph and I'd be dead or severely brain damaged without a helmet. So tooling around you neighborhood is not a good reason not to wear a helmet. This was less than a block from my house.
Wow, how the heck did you do that?  That sucks, hope all is well, that bike must have some serious balls.

I'm actually afraid that I will have the same problem as Jen, as I seem to be in between sizes.  The HJC CL-SP and CL-15 seem to be the best fits so far, but I'm afraid of them loosening up to much.  Honestly, the shops I went to carried Arai, and they weren't all that helpful in fitting me for ANY helmet, let alone Arai.  I did try some Scorpions again today, the 700's felt better today, and the 400's seem to run bigger than the 700's. Geez I never thought it would be so difficult to buy a helmet.  And I don't see how any one can buy one online w/o trying it on somewhere first, they all fit so differently.  I tried so many helmets today my temples are chafed (literally) LOL.
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Shave your head to loosen things up  :cookoo:

bettingpython

135 RWHP and 76 ft/LBS torque, yes it has some balls, finally figured out what happened. 1) I put a brand new rear on this weekend. 2) it was 45 degrees. I was babying her so as not to have something like this happen but I did not account for fall foliage. My neghborhhod streets are being overtaken by all the leaf litter build up in the gutters, it has encroached upon the roads and cars have regularly been running over and grinding up large quantities of leafs, this creates a fine not tire friendly dust that accumalates on windless days. This stuff I discovered on walking the area I lost the rear at is almost as slick as radiator fluid. And not noticeable.

When I was picking the bike up I was at a loss for why I couldn't get any traction since I could see no fluids on the road. Now I know. In 21 years this is the first time I have encountered this issue. On a smaller bike like my wifes GS this probably would not have been an issue. These things happen. Both knees are sore and today my neck muscles are sore from the helmet impacting the ground. Some part of the bike came down on my right foot and crushed my right great toe, no break but lots of soft tissue damage and swelling. None of my plastics are broken but since I am so anal about my bikes it's going to run about 1,000 bucks to replace the rashed pieces.

Learn something new everyday. Hopefully this will help someone else avoid this problem.
Why didn't you just go the whole way and buy me a f@#king Kawasaki you bastards.

pbureau69

Quote from: blue05twin on November 16, 2006, 02:08:31 PM
Just wondering whats the cheapest snell rated helmet for sale in the US?

Icon Alliance Primary 2 for 79.99$ at newenough.com is Snell & Dot Approved.



Link to reviews http://www.motorcyclegearreview.com/reviews.php?prodID=810

I have made the mistake in the past of ordering a "jarfum" or what ever he calls himself... helmet was noisy as heck, padding was tight, 2 weeks later it packed-out and helmet was loose... and the flip up mechanism ended breaking...

I have a KBC FFR Element flip up;



Its noisier than a full face no doubt, but solid and super comfy, the flip up mechanism is a solid metal joint, and the lock pins and anchor points also all metal. Very solid, a little heavier than your closed full helmets but expected from a flip up... nothing like being stuck in traffic @ 5 mph , flip helmet and light a smoke... (grin), I like the bent nose design a lot more than the standard design (as in the Icon model) the FFR chin is hooked down and I can tell you it takes the wind off your chin and removed a lot of turbulance from this area..



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2005 GS500F Starting mileage: 01/01/08 - 23,757 Update: 07/28/08 - 30,987 Miles (+7230 Miles)
2002 FZ1000 Starting mileage: 07/19/08 - 10,879 Update: 07/28/08 - 11,560 Miles (+680 Miles)

Yankee Punker

 Yeah, those wet leaves and stuff that get mashed on the road can be as slick as ice, that was how I last went down, I hit a little patch on a corner that was only about one sq. foot and the front slipped out too far and down I went. I was aware of the road conditions and I was going slow, so I've hurt myself worse falling off a bar stool. And I think the only way I could have avoided this spill is if I would have left the bike at home that day.  :cheers:
Being naked was great, but now that I'm older I thought I should cover up!!!!

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pbureau69

Quote from: rangerbrown on November 16, 2006, 02:02:08 PM
find one in the states that has a euro rating for a cheap price

Yeah I agree, but the cost is prohibitive to get such a helmet shipped over.
it doesnt matter what you wear in Texas, there is no required Helemet law, I see plenty of bozos without a helmet and plenty with "fiberglass german helmets replicas" on their head while cruising the state.

I know I would be best served by a european standard tested helmet, but they are way overpriced.

I need to take a european vacation next year and buy one there and bring it back with me. and save on fitting and shipping issues.
Patrick. B.
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2005 GS500F Starting mileage: 01/01/08 - 23,757 Update: 07/28/08 - 30,987 Miles (+7230 Miles)
2002 FZ1000 Starting mileage: 07/19/08 - 10,879 Update: 07/28/08 - 11,560 Miles (+680 Miles)

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