Referring to THIS thread -- I think all the naysayers were waaaayy off.

Bond has been reborn. There were enough hooks to the old and plenty of new for today. It was more like the Batman Begins, but without the jerk-flash fighting that is hard to follow. It was every bit the 3 1/2 stars the paper review gave it. Gritty, physical, intense, wry, and a refreshing "face lift" for the mark. I think it the best since Golden Eye, but without the campy, silly stuff. A return to the intensity of the first Connery movies.



I am looking forward to the next movie.
"James Bond Will Return"  was at the end of the credits.

I saw the movie earlier this week and cant agree more. It proves you dont need big budget special effects and ridiculous story lines to be a winner. Best movie I have seen for a long time. Maybe the De-Fib in the Aston was a bit far-fetched but you have to give the producers a small break. Strange to think that me and Daniel Craig grew up within a few miles of each other.......ok there is a few years between us but hey........its my new claim to fame. 5 stars from me.
If you admire Danny Craig make this your next DVD rental:
http://www.sonypictures.co.uk/homevideo/layercake/index.html

+1
Saw it a week ago. Go see this flick!
Craig does a great job as bond! Its one of the best if not the best bond movie ive seen. Im 35 so ive seen 1 or 2.
That first fight is so good! And how about the fact that he gets hurt? His hands are cut after the fights. I hate when use see a fight and no one cuts on their hands.
Very good!

Excellent film, intensely stressful chase, etc., scenes, very deep character (for Bond).  The film shows evidence of invovlement of the "fairer" sex, although the object of pain in the torture scene was not at all fair. 

I loved the movie .. but I'm not sure it wouldn't have been better as a non-bond movie.

I understand going the grittier, unpolished route, but that's one of the appeals of Bond.  He's sophisticated, not a thug.  And he always has a nice car chase.  Avoiding the chick doesn't count (though the free running to start off rocked).

I also had issues with a few things.  Chronologically, this is the first movie.  So M was a man ... and "M" was just a letter - not an initial for her name.  That rang false to me.  I noticed a few other things things that might cause problems with the overall timeline .. but my brain is a little addled at the moment.

Anyway ...  I thought it was a great movie.  Overall I think Bond movies should have car chases / martinis / lots of half naked women / gadgets / sophistication.  This was lacking in most of those .. but it was still good.

Maybe the next one will go back towards the typical Bond image.  We shall see

I loved the film. Especially because it didn't lose but actually gained in terms of its entertainment for going back to what real bond movies should be like from the real bond written by Ian Flemming. He never had gadgets apart from a few such as little nelly but no watches or exploding rocket packed speed boats. It was a fantastic movies - much deeper than other bond movies while still being intensly entertaining. My only ever so slight criticism is that about 3/4 of the way through it felt like the end - rowing down the river in Venice with the girl  like it should be the happy ending but then it all started over again.

Quote from: Kasumi on December 04, 2006, 05:00:19 PM
I loved the film. Especially because it didn't lose but actually gained in terms of its entertainment for going back to what real bond movies should be like from the real bond written by Ian Flemming. He never had gadgets apart from a few such as little nelly but no watches or exploding rocket packed speed boats. It was a fantastic movies - much deeper than other bond movies while still being intensly entertaining. My only ever so slight criticism is that about 3/4 of the way through it felt like the end - rowing down the river in Venice with the girl  like it should be the happy ending but then it all started over again.

Well hey, don't spoil it for those who haven't seen it or anything...

Quote from: Kasumi on December 04, 2006, 05:00:19 PM
I loved the film. Especially because it didn't lose but actually gained in terms of its entertainment for going back to what real bond movies should be like from the real bond written by Ian Flemming.

Good point ... I forgot about that aspect .. I agree

ANd with the spoiler too ... that was kind of annoying.

I loved it.
I loved that it was actually plausable.
You can suspend disbeleif to a point, but the last few have just been REDICULOUS.
i refuse to beleive that they thought, "hey, one of our agents may at some point have heat seeking missiles fired at his aston, we must develop automatic shotguns to solve this problem."

The new one had no stupid, over the top gadgets that served no purpose, as recent films have had. Only gadgets the car had was first aid stuff, and remote vitals monitoring, which is technology that actually exists.

Definatly a fantastic movie, i hope daniel craig will be around awhile

i loved it.  I think that he is going to make a great bond.  He has all the qualities and played a great 007 in this first appearance.  For all those who are saying he lacked some of the bond qualities this film is different from the others in one aspect and i think anyone who has seen it or read the book should know that.

Quote from: jdanna on December 04, 2006, 11:06:06 PM
I loved it.
I loved that it was actually plausable.
You can suspend disbeleif to a point, but the last few have just been REDICULOUS.
i refuse to beleive that they thought, "hey, one of our agents may at some point have heat seeking missiles fired at his aston, we must develop automatic shotguns to solve this problem."

The new one had no stupid, over the top gadgets that served no purpose, as recent films have had. Only gadgets the car had was first aid stuff, and remote vitals monitoring, which is technology that actually exists.

Definatly a fantastic movie, i hope daniel craig will be around awhile

Spoiler warning so it's small ...
A defib and anti-venom that works in under 2 minutes for that particular poison?!?!?!?  You don't have to suspend disbelief for that?  Many of the gadgets that has been produced by the "Q" department over the 20+ films has been plausible inventions.  Over the top - yes ... but doable.

It was a great movie ... it just wasn't a true Bond movie to me.  I'm conflicted.  I loved the movie and want them to continue in the same vein (esp the more physical aspects like the first scenes), and it would be interesting to see this new Bond become the classic Bond over time, but I don't see how they're going to do that without remaking the other movies.  The Ian Fleming canon has been pretty much depleted.  Unless they go back and start doing the films that just borrowed the name of the book and not the story ... that could be fun 

I predicted, weeks ago, that the naysayers would be way off.  I predicted that new re-invented Bond would be the best Bond and this film would be better than Golden Eye.

http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=31554.15

Score:
Jake D          3
Naysayers    0

Yay me!

Quote from: Jake D on December 05, 2006, 09:31:47 AM
I predicted, weeks ago, that the naysayers would be way off.  I predicted that new re-invented Bond would be the best Bond and this film would be better than Golden Eye.

http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=31554.15

Score:
Jake D          3
Naysayers    0

Yay me!

I stand by my nutrality untill i saw the movie and discovered that you were right

Quote from: Jake D on December 05, 2006, 09:31:47 AM
I predicted, weeks ago, that the naysayers would be way off.  I predicted that new re-invented Bond would be the best Bond and this film would be better than Golden Eye.

http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=31554.15

Score:
Jake D          3
Naysayers    0

Yay me!

I'll agree on the Golden Eye comment ... but best Bond?  Has to be Connery.  To say otherwise is just silly.  Craig is a good actor (Layer Cake rocked), and he did well in this, but it didn't have the feel of a Bond film.  Compare it to Mission Impossible or Miami Vice.  Go back and watch the TV Shows and then compare them to the movies.  The movies are great stories, and well done .. but they're still different.  Just like Casino Royale.  I'll concede that this movie was top 3, but it was one of the least Bond-like so far. 

I loved it. The latest bond movies have been overly cheesy, and completely lacking any character development. 'twas well done, and I like danny boy.  Layer Cake was quite good as well, as someone posted already.

To me it felt like a bond movie from streight off. Admitedly it was weird seeing Daniel Craig instead of Piece Brosnan but you soon get used to this. Brosnan made a great bond and just slipped into the role without anyone doubting him or having such a build up about him being a bond (which i think was part of the reason seeing Craig was weird - everyone has been so focused on him being the next bond that there was alot of build up around him).

Even though Brosnan played a good bond the last movies were too unrealistic for my liking and i loved the style of the new film. It just takes some getting used to seeing Danny instead of Brosnan but he will grow on us all and certinally made a brillient bond. Long live bond!

. . . and God save the Queen!!

Quote from: MrDan on December 05, 2006, 08:09:03 AM
Spoiler warning so it's small ...
A defib and anti-venom that works in under 2 minutes for that particular poison?!?!?!?  You don't have to suspend disbelief for that?  Many of the gadgets that has been produced by the "Q" department over the 20+ films has been plausible inventions.  Over the top - yes ... but doable.

It was a great movie ... it just wasn't a true Bond movie to me.  I'm conflicted.  I loved the movie and want them to continue in the same vein (esp the more physical aspects like the first scenes), and it would be interesting to see this new Bond become the classic Bond over time, but I don't see how they're going to do that without remaking the other movies.  The Ian Fleming canon has been pretty much depleted.  Unless they go back and start doing the films that just borrowed the name of the book and not the story ... that could be fun 

on the aforementioned spoiler - thats true, it was a bit unlikely, but MUCH less then the other recent movies, with satelites disentrating planes midflight, huge, totally wired ice castles with star trek doors, super-cyber-digital-kill-people-electro-suits, etc

willing suspension of disbeleif is just fine and dandy to a point, and for me, the last 2 movies crossed that point, and this new one didnt.

Quote from: jdanna on December 05, 2006, 04:34:03 PM

Quote from: MrDan on December 05, 2006, 08:09:03 AM
Spoiler warning so it's small ...
A defib and anti-venom that works in under 2 minutes for that particular poison?!?!?!?  You don't have to suspend disbelief for that?  Many of the gadgets that has been produced by the "Q" department over the 20+ films has been plausible inventions.  Over the top - yes ... but doable.

It was a great movie ... it just wasn't a true Bond movie to me.  I'm conflicted.  I loved the movie and want them to continue in the same vein (esp the more physical aspects like the first scenes), and it would be interesting to see this new Bond become the classic Bond over time, but I don't see how they're going to do that without remaking the other movies.  The Ian Fleming canon has been pretty much depleted.  Unless they go back and start doing the films that just borrowed the name of the book and not the story ... that could be fun 

on the aforementioned spoiler - thats true, it was a bit unlikely, but MUCH less then the other recent movies, with satelites disentrating planes midflight, huge, totally wired ice castles with star trek doors, super-cyber-digital-kill-people-electro-suits, etc

willing suspension of disbeleif is just fine and dandy to a point, and for me, the last 2 movies crossed that point, and this new one didnt.

I'll agree 100% on that

I did remember another thing that irked me .... In other movies/books we've found out who his parents are ... kind of makes the whole orphan thing not sense unless they're his adopted parents which also doesn't make sense.  Maybe I need to go reread the books.

Best new Bond...  2nd best overall Bond...  #4 (or so) best Bond Movie...

++ on Layer Cake...