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GS DEAD?! I think the motor locked up....

Started by South East Rocket, September 16, 2003, 06:32:47 AM

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South East Rocket

....Well it did.  I experience a slight loss of power (kindda felt like i was in too high gear) then progressively loss more and more power over about a 20 sec until the back wheel locked and the engine completely stopped.  Is the motor shot??

South East Rocket

Called my dad and threw it in the back of the truck...
I have a spare motor that have a bad counter balancer and a cracked engine case.  Would that be of use?

JamesG

need more info.

How many miles are on the bike/motor?

Did it have the proper oil level?

What did the oil on the dipstick look like?

Did it make any noises as it was dying?

Will it roll in neutral?

Will the starter crank it?
James Greeson
GS Posse
WERA #306

South East Rocket

How many miles are on the bike/motor?

-About 14,000miles

Did it have the proper oil level?

-I beleive the oil may have been a little low considering the head gasket leaks slightly.

What did the oil on the dipstick look like?

-Dark, but didn't look like anything out of the ordinary.

Did it make any noises as it was dying?

-Got kindda loud, and I thought I heard some clanking

Will it roll in neutral?

-Yes

Will the starter crank it?

-No




Hope that can help narrow it down some.  Thanks for JamesG

JamesG

Yeah that did.  You're screwed.  :P

just kidding.

You are going to have to tear the engine all the way down to find out what is wrong, anything else is just a guess.
If you are "lucky" you siezed a piston (unlikely) and can use the cylinders and pistons from that bad motor.
The more likely scenario is that you spun and siezed either the big end or main crank bearings. If you are somewhat less lucky, you will be able to save the cases, and just get a new crank (might be able to use the one out of the other one) & bearings.
Any which way, it's not going to be cheap...

bummer dude.
James Greeson
GS Posse
WERA #306

Greg Gabis

Or...

You can seize a piston and have the wrist pin tear out and the rod slam into the cases ruining both the case and the cylinder.

Not that I would know what that looks like or anything. :o

The Buddha

Hey South East..Part it out....and Dibs on everything....
Cool.
Srinath.
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South East Rocket

Quote from: seshadri_srinathHey South East..Part it out....and Dibs on everything....
Cool.
Srinath.


Option 1:
I may actually do that.  But it may be more trouble to tear it down than it's worth.  I may just sell it on ebay.  It's got a clear title, only 800miles on the new Avon Tires, GIX 750 shock, new paint, and more....  I can probably get $600 for it and save me the labor of having to tear it down.

Option 2:
I know I can probably get another engine for $300-400 and just hank the bad one out and keep it.

I am very attached to the bike, having done so much to it and it beeing my 1st bike.  I may just buy another bike and keep the GS and fix it up as a project.  I'd love to still have my 1st bike when I'm an old man.

The Buddha

Hey where are you located...I just might know where there may be a motor...
Cool.
Srinath.
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yamahonkawazuki

Srinath wrote:
QuoteHey South East..Part it out....and Dibs on everything....
Cool.
Srinath.
hey srinath, just a question, you seem to be getting whole lotta bike parts, how many bikes do you have, and which do you like best/worst :)  :cheers:
Jan 14 2010 0310 I miss you mom
Vielen dank Patrick. Vielen dank
".
A proud Mormon
"if you come in with the bottom of your cast black,
neither one of us will be happy"- Alan Silverman MD

Rashad

Option 2:
I know I can probably get another engine for $300-400 and just hank the bad one out and keep it.

I am very attached to the bike, having done so much to it and it beeing my 1st bike.  I may just buy another bike and keep the GS and fix it up as a project.  I'd love to still have my 1st bike when I'm an old man.[/quote]

STORY OF MY LIFE! :cheers:  Fix it! check my 10 pager for reference...

oh yeah, and srinath. :thumb:
91' Teal GS500E

Vance and Hines Full system/ Custom Jetted/ K&N Clamp on pods/ Rebuilt 99' Motor/ EBC Pads/ 15 tooth front sprocket/ Avon tires/ Progressive Springs...

yamahonkawazuki

ahhhhh yes! the man-whore speaketh :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:
i remember the novel!
Jan 14 2010 0310 I miss you mom
Vielen dank Patrick. Vielen dank
".
A proud Mormon
"if you come in with the bottom of your cast black,
neither one of us will be happy"- Alan Silverman MD

Rashad

Quote from: yamahonkawazukiahhhhh yes! the man-whore speaketh :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:
i remember the novel!

LOL... i was wondering the same thing about srinath.

Maybe hes hording bike parts in an effort to build the ultimate GS monster! capable of push button belt drive and 16 inch rim reduction!!! Crazy stuff! Also, if tires were indeed plastic-hard.. they would last forever!

Ill bet hes got something up his sleeve :nana:
91' Teal GS500E

Vance and Hines Full system/ Custom Jetted/ K&N Clamp on pods/ Rebuilt 99' Motor/ EBC Pads/ 15 tooth front sprocket/ Avon tires/ Progressive Springs...

The Buddha

What....
I have 10 bikes...they all serve a different purpose...The GS is by far my favorite and my #1 choice for any short drive...under 50 miles.
The Eliminators (2 1000's and 1 900) are straight line bikes...no handling, no brakes.
The vulcan 750 is a serious cruiser and long rides on it are good if I am in no hurry to get there.
The KZ440 and Virago 535 are also short distance commuter bikes and the 535 was for my wife. It probably is the easiest bike to make crash resistant. The 440 has belt drive and makes a great cheapo commuter.
The nitehawk 650 was a deal I couldn't refuse...and its for sale.
The GSXR 1100 is probably going to be my run to starbicks bike If I could ever tolerate starbucks...well I could run to Sam's Mart and I love their coffee so we good there...Its a project anyway...
Anyway most of these are for sale...2 of the eli's, the vulcan, virago, 1 of GS'es and the nitehawk...Then I decide what else...Maybe the KZ too
I also have a convertible 69 beetle...Fun with the wife and son???
Cool.
Srinath.
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scratch

The ZL1000's don't handle? I know the 900 doesn't. How does the 1000 compare?
Is the KZ the twin? I always figured Eddie Lawson on one of those could beat anybody on a FZR400...

And the Gixxer is the coffee run rocket?!! You don't want it to get cold on the way home, do ya!?
The motorcycle is no longer the hobby, the skill has become the hobby.

Power does not compare to skill.  What good is power without the skill to use it?

QuoteOriginally posted by Wintermute on BayAreaRidersForum.com
good judgement trumps good skills every time.

South East Rocket

I'm in Tennessee close to Chattanooga.  Can you locate something for me?

The Buddha

OK SER....How far from say Charlotte (I should know cos I drove through Tennessee last year but it was all at night when I was propped up only by my wife's complaining - she was 4 months pregnant at that time so justified)...

KZ 440 is an air cooled  2 cyl predessor to the 454 ltd and 500 vulcan and lawson probably would have out run it on his schwinn...
The 900 eli is a great handler compared to the 1000...10% more rotating mass, 10% more torque and 10% more weight with the same running gear and geometry. Pathetic...
The GSXR has been out of my hands for so long while my friend is doing a 750 frame transplant...I dont even know what to do with it...but It may prompt me to sell the other eli as well...I might get a 600 eli instead...That seems to be right on par with my vulcan in terms of handling and I can live with that. In fact the vulcan and bigger elis share a lot of things and have similar geometries and weights but the vulcan handles 1000% better....
Cool.
Srinath.
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Juanfer

QuoteWhat....
I have 10 bikes...they all serve a different purpose...The GS is by far my favorite and my #1 choice for any short drive...under 50 miles.
The Eliminators (2 1000's and 1 900) are straight line bikes...no handling, no brakes.
The vulcan 750 is a serious cruiser and long rides on it are good if I am in no hurry to get there.
The KZ440 and Virago 535 are also short distance commuter bikes and the 535 was for my wife. It probably is the easiest bike to make crash resistant. The 440 has belt drive and makes a great cheapo commuter.
The nitehawk 650 was a deal I couldn't refuse...and its for sale.
The GSXR 1100 is probably going to be my run to starbicks bike If I could ever tolerate starbucks...well I could run to Sam's Mart and I love their coffee so we good there...Its a project anyway...
Anyway most of these are for sale...2 of the eli's, the vulcan, virago, 1 of GS'es and the nitehawk...Then I decide what else...Maybe the KZ too
I also have a convertible 69 beetle...Fun with the wife and son???
Cool.
Srinath.


WHO ARE YOU REALLY? BILL GATES?????
Hay dos clases de motociclistas: los que se han caido y los que se van a caer. Ride Safe!

Kerry

And what about Isabel?  Is she going to make things difficult for Charlotte?
Yellow 1999 GS500E
Kerry's Suzuki GS500 Page

yamahonkawazuki

just a question, do you have any f.u.b.a.r bikes or basket case bikes for sale?
:?
Jan 14 2010 0310 I miss you mom
Vielen dank Patrick. Vielen dank
".
A proud Mormon
"if you come in with the bottom of your cast black,
neither one of us will be happy"- Alan Silverman MD

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