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Started by vsboxerboy, January 12, 2007, 11:36:55 AM

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starwalt

Quote from: 3imo on January 17, 2007, 07:35:37 AM
Your pics are fuzzy, but I think they are priceless.

Those were actually shot through a bench ring-light magnifier on a 1.2 MegPix camera with a lens the size of a dime (no mech zoom). Kerry sent me his retired Kodak 3.2 Meg (with multiple features)...the one that shot many of his road trip pics and early vids. I have been using it since.
-=Doug......   IT ≠ IQ.

God save us from LED turn signal mods!

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The trend here is entropy

starwalt

Quote from: sledge on January 17, 2007, 10:39:45 AM
I am I right in adding that when cleaning the contacts its vital to remove as little as possible from the contact face...

Truer words are rarely spoken. That is why I usually start with paper to buff the arc material off. If the contact is particularly bad, I use a relay burnishing tool with a surface like unto worn sharkskin.

Regarding signal relays...an almost extinct breed...they have fine material coatings that are usually destroyed by well meaning repair techs. Signal relays should be cleaned with special techniques or just plain replaced for system integrity.

In the case of the GS TSR, the Suz engineers have moved on to the electronic circuitry relay. This is an improvement over the knife-connector circuitry of the early relays, though the contact ratings of the relay still have to deal with the same current.

Meeting adjourned!  :cheers:
-=Doug......   IT ≠ IQ.

God save us from LED turn signal mods!

Get an Ebay GS value  HERE.

1990 GS running, 1990 GS work-in-progress, 1990 basket case.
The trend here is entropy

sledge

Yeah thought so.......I have seen guys in industry using emery-cloth as rough as the side of a house-brick to dress Hi-Vo` switch and breaker-contacts........fortunately, I have never been in the area when it comes to the turning-on  :o

John Bates

Quote from: sledge on January 17, 2007, 01:08:09 PM
Yeah thought so.......I have seen guys in industry using emery-cloth as rough as the side of a house-brick to dress Hi-Vo` switch and breaker-contacts........fortunately, I have never been in the area when it comes to the turning-on  :o

I like to use fingernail files.  :laugh: :laugh:

:cheers:
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vsboxerboy

Okay, so I used a fingernail file lightly to remove any junk, but that didn't seem to do the trick.  I did, however, run into a friend who is going to give me the TSR from his GS as he replaced his with a different one when he switched to LED signals.

I even tried running wires between the TSR and the bike and that didnt work, so I guess the TSR is shot.
1991 GS500E | K&N Drop In | Rejet 127.5/40 | Ignition Advancer |

                                ***UCSB***

starwalt

Quote from: vsboxerboy on January 19, 2007, 12:44:16 PM..I even tried running wires between the TSR and the bike and that didnt work, so I guess the TSR is shot.

Did you use wire to replace the TSR? This should make whatever side you select stay ON.

You should try that test to see if your power paths are good. If you had a crimp tool, you could make a male spade jumper for testing this. Otherwise:

  • Cram some wire into the socket off the wiring harness
  • Turn the ignition switch to ON
  • Select Left or Right signals
  • The side you select should light up

If not, then the bulbs or the wiring/connectors are at fault. The turn signals use the wiring harness for both positive and negative connections to the battery.

The bulb sockets are notorious for collecting condensation/moisture after aging -- if left outside without a cover.

Keep us posted.
-=Doug......   IT ≠ IQ.

God save us from LED turn signal mods!

Get an Ebay GS value  HERE.

1990 GS running, 1990 GS work-in-progress, 1990 basket case.
The trend here is entropy

3imo

Not the brightest crayon in the box, but I can still be seen from a distance.  ;P
QuoteOpinions abound. Where opinions abound, mouths, like tachometers, often hit redline. - STARWALT

Jarrett you ignorant my mama...

vsboxerboy

"Did you use wire to replace the TSR? This should make whatever side you select stay ON."

I did this, running a very short length of wire between the two female ends that the TSR would plug into.  This caused the turn signals, both front and back as well as the indicator light on the dash, to light up when I would press left and right accordingly.  So, yeah they stayed on and the lights and wiring all seem to be good.
1991 GS500E | K&N Drop In | Rejet 127.5/40 | Ignition Advancer |

                                ***UCSB***

3imo

Not the brightest crayon in the box, but I can still be seen from a distance.  ;P
QuoteOpinions abound. Where opinions abound, mouths, like tachometers, often hit redline. - STARWALT

Jarrett you ignorant my mama...

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