Alright, so I took the key into a locksmith and he said it was too bent and warped to replace it. I called suzuki and they said i needed the number off my ignition. so ive taken the steps to try to get to it and I need your help everyone

here is my previous post

http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=33713.0
here is what ive done so far.. with no luck at getting at the lock


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what is the next step draw arrows or something i learn visually

thanks ahead of time

Nepix

I think the key number is stamped onto a tag that is attached to the key when brand new, but I am not 100% sure. I also suspect that the ignition barrel cant be removed from the headstock without drilling out a couple of shear-bolts that will have to be replaced. Others will confirm or deny this. You are making a lot of work for yourself, has the dealer told you for certain that the number is on the ignition barrel and have you taken the easier option and looked on the seat and tank lock for any numbers?

when i bought my bike new i was given a number with teh spare key..

but they should be able to track down the key from the VIN.

You should have just kept the other thread going.  I gave you all the information you needed to get a new key.  You need to try a new locksmith.  I have never seen a key so badly broken that I couldn't make a copy.  Please try someone else, and insist that they at least give it a shot.  Do not accept no for an answer.  If they still fail, Suzuki is leading you down the wrong path.  From my experience, very few motorcycles, especially the GS, do not have the key code stamped on the lock cylinder.  Some GS's did, but I would not bet on it.  What you need, is for the dealer to look up the key code from your VIN.  Only the dealer can make that connection, but any locksmith worth their HPC1200 can make you a key from the code once the dealer figures out what it is.  

Your other, more costly option is to just have a locksmith come out, pick the tank and seat locks, make a key then progress the ignition.  It costs more, but is a sure thing.  Best of luck.


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If you still want to pull the cylinder housing, you need to remove the top triple, disconnect any wiring, and place the triple on a workbench.  Now, drill out the shear bolts (on some years of the GS they may be security torx).  At this point the housing will drop out of the triple, and any code, if present, will be visable stamped into the housing.  A locksmith can turn this number into a key.

This man speaks the truth.

If you take the top tripple with the ignition and your registration or title to a locksmith they can also help you out
easier with seat and tank and ignition
seat has 2-3 tumblers
tank has 5-6
ignition has....8 i think

locksmiths don't usually charge as much when they don't have to crawl into the back of your truck to progress a key.....

ken in NC

I had my key just snap in half on me one night.

No excess force, nothing weird just snapped.

why are you removing the ignition again??

you can give the dealer your VIN# and Suzuki will ship out a set of keys directly to the dealer's parts department. They usually take only a day to make.

the VIN# is stamped on your frame. why again are you removing the ignition??

i have this problem too.  why can't the locksmith remove the key and make a copy?  that's what locksmiths are for!!!!

I'd say find a new locksmith.  When my keys got stolen, I contacted one who came out and made a new key without the keycode or removing the ignition. He just inserted a blank into the ignition, figured out where the tumblers were, and filed it down by hand.  It was cheaper then getting the dealer to do the deed as well.

Pedal Pusher - How much did it cost you?

About $125 dollars as I had no key, or key code.  The local Suzuki dealer wanted to charge me about $200 dollars to take the ignition apart and cut a new key.  They said it was impossible to look up the keycode from the VIN.  As you still have the remnants of a key, I suspect you could get yours done for less.

Quote from: Pedal Pusher on March 14, 2007, 11:19:14 AM
I'd say find a new locksmith.  When my keys got stolen, I contacted one who came out and made a new key without the keycode or removing the ignition. He just inserted a blank into the ignition, figured out where the tumblers were, and filed it down by hand.  It was cheaper then getting the dealer to do the deed as well.

This is a very risky way to make key for certain locks.  Having used this method to make many keys, I would not use it for any Japanese motorcycle.  The wafer tumblers are weak, and can be damaged during the impressioning process.  Decoding the seat and tank locks, then progressioning the ignition is the best method short of locating the code.

yeah, i still have enough key to turn the bike on with a screw driver.  doesn't take much effort either.  some skinny tweezers would get the key out.

or you could use a key extractor.....yeah a locksmith can fish it out and make you a new one.

locksmith.....



might want to take it to a ......locksmith

You know, what you could also do is drill out the old locks and replace 'em with new ones. May actually work out to be cheaper than getting a locksmith to look at it.

stepping over a dollar to pick up a penny

Quote from: werase643 on March 14, 2007, 07:04:03 PM
or you could use a key extractor.....yeah a locksmith can fish it out and make you a new one.

locksmith.....



might want to take it to a ......locksmith

lol

this:
http://www.lockpickshop.com/p-MEX-4.html

or a locksmith.

Quote from: Pedal Pusher on March 14, 2007, 08:24:25 PM
You know, what you could also do is drill out the old locks and replace 'em with new ones. May actually work out to be cheaper than getting a locksmith to look at it.

right up to the point where you price an ignitioh lock, gas cap and seat lock  set......

locally costs about 80-85 bucks from local guy to come out
around 50 if you bring it into a shop
or you could send the ignition to one or two of the members on this site and they probably would fix you up for 50 or so + shipping
yeah, I have friends that are.....LOCKSMITHS.....

heck, I taught Srinath how to pick a tank......

I'm really NOT suprised at what the suzuki dealer quoted you for two new keys.

I've heard of many dealers doing this before. Basically they'll try to make it out to be way more work than it really is, as to make more money for themselves. They wanted you to get the code or bring in the whole ignition so they could make the keys there?? They do it that way & it COSTS you a couple hundred dollars for friggin keys. They do it the PROPER way & you SAVE a couple hundred dollars.

They can order a set through the VIN#, and they'll probably only ask for proof of ownership. It's easy and they dont make much money off it, but the auto & motorcycle manufacturers implemented the system TO HELP THEIR CUSTOMERS. Keys take a day to make & they can expedite the shipping so you'll have them in only a few.

If you go the dealer route, you should either talk to someone at the dealership who knows WTF they are talking about  , or find a new dealer.