Do any common bikes (GSXR 600 SV650 etc...) share the same brake and clutch levers as the GS500 does? i am thinking of ordering some Pazzo levers http://www.pazzoracing.com/ but i dont know which one to order... if all else fails their shop is in my city and i can get a custom piece made but it will cost more.

Thanks

Hayabusas, Bandit 1200s and 600s, GSX-R750, and the TL1000S and R.

For the brake lever at least. Clutch lever might be different, but I don't know for sure.

Quote from: AlphaFire X5 on March 14, 2007, 01:00:56 PM
Hayabusas, Bandit 1200s and 600s, GSX-R750, and the TL1000S and R.

For the brake lever at least. Clutch lever might be different, but I don't know for sure.

thank you very much, i guess i can just bring my clutch lever in to them to make sure.

Quote from: jamez667 on March 14, 2007, 02:56:10 PM

Quote from: AlphaFire X5 on March 14, 2007, 01:00:56 PM
Hayabusas, Bandit 1200s and 600s, GSX-R750, and the TL1000S and R.

For the brake lever at least. Clutch lever might be different, but I don't know for sure.

thank you very much, i guess i can just bring my clutch lever in to them to make sure.

Or call up Cycle Gear, or check part numbers on MRCycles or BikeBandit.

Clutch lever is different. I do not know of any other bike that uses the same one.

and this is the reason we swap the clutch lever and perch with one from a......GSXR

Yeah Bike Bandit wants $42~ for a brake lever.... Ripoff.

Pazzo is a crap knockoff of CRG levers. Pazzo makes levers for squids who like pink or purple levers on their bikes.  CRG makes levers and mirrors in hard anodized black, gold and grey. They also have a sealed roller bearing in the so adjusting mechanism so adjustments on the fly are possible with one finger.

Albeit, Pazzo i canadian and i'm all for that but non the less they are a cheaper knockoff.

WWW.CRGMOTO.COM

The whole clutch ring band should be swapped over. The stupid GS has a unique one.
Cool.
Srinath.

Quote from: dubkeith on March 15, 2007, 06:41:11 AM
Pazzo is a crap knockoff of CRG levers. Pazzo makes levers for squids who like pink or purple levers on their bikes.  CRG makes levers and mirrors in hard anodized black, gold and grey. They also have a sealed roller bearing in the so adjusting mechanism so adjustments on the fly are possible with one finger.

Albeit, Pazzo i canadian and i'm all for that but non the less they are a cheaper knockoff.

WWW.CRGMOTO.COM

No offense, but you sound like an ignorant jackass.

Pazzos are not some "cheap knockoff", but rather a competitor to CRG. They anodize their levers different colors to give someone more options in choosing, thus increasing market share to those who don't simply want black, gold, or gray. And by the way, Pazzos aren't cheap. And if you had done your research, you'd note that you can adjust your Pazzo levers in the same fashion as the CRGs, since they have very similar roll-a-click adjustments.

No offence taken.

Research, I am the Canadian distributor of CRG products and yes the idea is the same for adjustment but, try to adjust a Pazzo with one finger or thumb in a leather glove smart guy.  I looked into taking the pazzo line on as it is a canadian company and I like to support Canadian revenue, but, after testing the pazzo's, it was apparent that it is infact an inferior product to the CRG. They have milled three holes in the lever (all the way through) making a week spot less than an inch from the pivot point of the lever. Makes for a lot of headache getting home after a parking lot knock over. We bought three sets of pazzos and tested them side by side with the CRG's and again, Inferior.

So, why don't you get your facts straight genious. Enjoy your squid parts. If your interested, a company called Emgo makes levers for the GS that have a real sweet Carbon look finish. Seems right up your alley. Oh, and i beleive Pep boys has those LED valve stem caps in ten colors now!

Jackass.

BOOSH! 

Quote from: dubkeith on March 15, 2007, 10:00:55 PM
No offence taken.

Research, I am the Canadian distributor of CRG products and yes the idea is the same for adjustment but, try to adjust a Pazzo with one finger or thumb in a leather glove smart guy.  I looked into taking the pazzo line on as it is a canadian company and I like to support Canadian revenue, but, after testing the pazzo's, it was apperant that it is infact an inferior product to the CRG. They have milled three holes in the lever (all the way through) making a week spot less than an inch from the pivot point of the lever. Makes for a lot of headach getting home after a parking lot knock over. We bought three sets of pazzos and tested them side by side with the CRG's and again, Inferior.

So, why don't you get your facts straight genious. Enjoy your squid parts. If your interested, a company called Emgo makes levers for the GS that have a real sweet Carbon look finish. Seems right up your alley. Oh, and i beleive Pep boys has those LED valve stem caps in ten colors now!

Jackass.

In fact, I did go home tonight and tried switching the Pazzo's adjustment range with one finger with a leather gloved hand. My father has them on his FZ1 (in black with gold adjusters, mind you). So yes, they are as easy to move as the CRGs I tried. If his bike drops, his levers won't be damaged because they are short enough that they won't come in contact with the ground before the bar ends do. The bar ends will contact roughly an inch and a half (that's 3.8 cm for you SI folks) before the levers would. Now if the bars got horribly horribly bent, which I doubt they will since they are TIG welded stainless steel Suburban Machinery bars, then maybe just maybe the lever would break, but I doubt it. You know why? Because those holes don't exactly hurt the lever's lateral strength, which is where it is stressed at in a fall.

Also, in case you forgot, even if he had the long ones Pazzo engineered in a break spot in case there was a tip over roughly 3/4" from the end of the lever. Therefore, if it was to break, it would be statistically likely to break at this point, as that is what it is designed to do.

So why don't you get your facts straight, genius, and admit you're just biased because that is who you work for.

Twatwaffle.

Anyone have a fire extinguisher?

Quote from: ixolas on March 15, 2007, 10:52:04 PM
Anyone have a fire extinguisher?

Why? It's fun to watch.

It's like watching Rocky... the first one.

Oh, I see, your DAD has them on his bike so you are an expert. I'm not bias against the Vortex levers, or the soon to be released Speedy Moto levers, why? Because they are a comparable product to CRG. They are a PERFORMANCE upgrade as apposed to a bling part. Take a bike on the track sometime and see how short levers fair in a crash. Long or short, they'll break. And unfotunately, the weak point in the Pazzos was the three decorative holes in the lever, not the notched break point. There was no r&d when Pazzo decided to copy crg. They merely took a crg lever, drilled some holes (creating a new weak point), left out a roller bearing, used cheaper fasteners, made a star like adjuster knob too small for man sized fingers to grab easily, and marketed it.

I guess by some freak of nature chance, the 6 levers we got from Pazzo were faulty and required much more effort than the CRG to adust on the fly. Just bad luck i guess.

Quote from: dubkeith on March 16, 2007, 07:09:35 AM
Oh, I see, your DAD has them on his bike so you are an expert. I'm not bias against the Vortex levers, or the soon to be released Speedy Moto levers, why? Because they are a comparable product to CRG. They are a PERFORMANCE upgrade as apposed to a bling part. Take a bike on the track sometime and see how short levers fair in a crash. Long or short, they'll break. And unfotunately, the weak point in the Pazzos was the three decorative holes in the lever, not the notched break point. There was no r&d when Pazzo decided to copy crg. They merely took a crg lever, drilled some holes (creating a new weak point), left out a roller bearing, used cheaper fasteners, made a star like adjuster knob too small for man sized fingers to grab easily, and marketed it.

I guess by some freak of nature chance, the 6 levers we got from Pazzo were faulty and required much more effort than the CRG to adust on the fly. Just bad luck i guess.

Just because my father has them on his bike does not make me an expert, nor did I claim as such. However, after reading numerous posts off the FZ1 board, as well as getting to see and feel the Pazzos first hand as well as see the aftermath of a wreck and a drop (at two FZ1 rallies, over 100 FZ1s in attendance), I can pretty assuredly say they are going to survive in a crash with little to no damage.

The crash was on The Dragon at 45mph or so. The guy's clutch lever (long) snapped at the designated brake point, and the shorty brake lever got some scratches on the ball end of the lever. The drop was a simple 2 or 3 mph drop due to gravel, no damage to either levers (both shorties). Neither incident had any issue with the proposed "weak point" due to drilling as you so suggested.

When designing a product, engineers are tasked with removing as much excess weight as necessary without sacrificing structural strength. The holes in the Pazzo lever do not affect structural strength enough to cause a problem in practice. In theory, yes the holes cause a difference in structural rigidity, but the difference is minute and insignificant in comparison with the whole product. For all intents and purposes, those holes do not affect the unit's resistance to breakage. When you take the unit as a whole, there are places on it that are statistically and structurally more likely to break than this "weak spot" you seem to be an expert on.

Oh yeah, and didn't CRG have a world wide recall on some of their levers because they didn't disengage fully? Isn't there a lawsuit from the R1 forum over that? Hmm...

You both made your points.  Good info, though.