My helmet annoys me a bit since I can't fasten or unfasten it with my gloves on, so I was thinking about installing a quick release buckle. This way before and after rides I won't have to fiddle around with gloves before I can take off or put on my helmet. I've been looking a bit and the Echo quick release buckle looks like its the best- metal on metal, strong design, etc. Has anyone used one of these? How safe/ convenient are they?

if you're comfortable with something that has "quick release" written on it protecting your skull then go fo rit.

NGFL has one on his helmet.  I liked it and ordered one but I haven't installed it yet.  PM NGFL I'm sure he'll tell you all about it.

I have the perfect solution for you.

Step 1.  Put helmet on head.
Step 2.  Fasten the strap.
Step 3.  Put golves on hands.

And when you need to take it off:

Step 1.  Remove gloves from hands.
Step 2.  Unfasten the strap.
Step 3.  Remove helmet from head.

Like Makky said...  Do you really want something that's "Quick Release" keeping your lid in place?

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Seatbelt latches have to pass safety standards....  Does this quick release thing?

Quote from: Wrecent_Wryder on March 22, 2007, 12:43:02 PMHe was roundly criticised for it, based on the silly assumption that anything that releases quickly must release more easily in an accident. By that reasoning, we should be lashing ourselves into our car seats with lots of rope and knots- the more difficult to undo, the safer, right?

His method was criticized because it IS easier to let loose in an accident.

in the breaker nylon/double loops require 1100lbs of force to cause failure.  With the slip-tie thingy Kerry suggested it only requires 975lbs of force.  I haven't had the pleasure of playing with a "quick release" clip type setup that will hold up to more than 600lbs of force.  For shits, the plastic clip that holds my dog's collar on breaks at 375lbs.

Of course the wrneching forces required to pull any of these off your skul are tremendous enough to kill you...but I'd like to make sure I'm really, really, really dead before my strap removes my jaw and face.

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Quote from: RVertigo on March 22, 2007, 12:47:02 PM
Seatbelt latches have to pass safety standards....  Does this quick release thing?

The website says that it exceeds DOT and Snell tests. I didn't know Snell tested helmet straps, but I guess they must.

Our forumgoers always suggest the safest option, and at times a minor tradeoff of safety is worth greater convenience. I first heard about these things from my MSF instructor who had one, and I'm inclined to think that the buckling mechanism is fairly strong from the pictures and descriptions.

i have a metal on meat quick release, an i love it, regardless of what eveyone wants to say about safety. 

t'ain't my head.....     I don't think the helmet strap is any kind of problem...  I just do it before I put my gloves on.

Quote from: RVertigo on March 22, 2007, 05:07:54 PM
t'ain't my head.....     I don't think the helmet strap is any kind of problem...  I just do it before I put my gloves on.

+1 

I have the quick release. I like it because even when I'm not wearing gloves, it makes things quicker. I've gone down in it twice, and never had an issue. I will transfer it over to my new helmet soon. The main reason I got it though is because I tend to do stupid things like put my gloves on, then realize my helmet is unstrapped (or put my gloves on and then realize my key is still in my jeans pocket )

gear is and always will be a PIA. If you're competent, it shouldn't make a difference whether you have to undo your helmet with gloves on or off. I have super thick rain gloves and i'm perfectly capable of doing and undoing my helmet with the gloves on. yes, it takes longer, but not much. and besides, i generally just  remove my gloves!  i know, i know, what insanity....

I was just looking out on our shop floor and we sell SNELL/DOT Approved quick release straps  If its approved by the same people that most an here say are best, then why would they not be safe?

I say they are alright.  But I don't want to fork the money out to buy them cause I am fine with the double loop and I am not going to Buddha Loves You at people about how retarded they are for wanted something a little easier because its not the norm.  to each his/her own = my $.02....

I was just worried that they were some weak-ass plastic clip, like I have on my backpack...     But, if they're actually tested and have to pass quality/stress testing...  Then, f%$k it... Go for it.


Snell says they're good...  They say our helmets are good...

Let's hope none of us have to find out if they're wrong...

Quote from: natedawg120 on March 28, 2007, 10:52:16 AM
I say they are alright.  But I don't want to fork the money out to buy them

they are $7.99 @ my shop 

I dont really want them either, but maybee I will try some out for that price

I picked one of the Echo ones up for about $6 on Ebay. It should be getting here soon and I'll do a writeup. It claims to be Snell and DOT approved, and seems solid. The clip has a metal on metal clasp so I'm hoping it will hold up well.

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