so i'v been playing around with shifting with out the cluch ... its so much easyer . and alot more fun ! just thought i'd let you guys know my enjoyment on my gs

yup no clutch is fun shifting down without it can sometimes prove tricky   Some jackass at my local shop said you can snap shift forks doing that .  i'm pretty sure he's just retarded though

i down shifted today without the clutch by accident. it kinda scared me haha

I downshifted without clutch in a sharp curve once   I think I shaZam! myself

Quote from: spcterry on May 07, 2007, 06:05:19 PM
yup no clutch is fun shifting down without it can sometimes prove tricky   Some jackass at my local shop said you can snap shift forks doing that .  i'm pretty sure he's just retarded though

actually he wasnt AND you can however pretty much only if you force teh bejeebus outta it

Well I assumed if you just jam the shaZam! out of it, it would....... But by manipulating throttle to take pressure off the gear allowing it to shift easily without clutch, I just dont see it happening

^^^what he said^^^

I down shifted without the clutch once...  I hit a huge bump and my foot went down on the shifter.  It made the nastiest noise....  *shiver*

Yeah it's not a kind noise

I know this has been discussed on a similar thread recently but:

with clutchless upshifting I can only get it to do it when I rev really high (8k or so) and let it drop off suddenly. Then it kicks into the next gear and 'catches' with a jerk (lurching the bike a little) that doesn't seem so smooth. How is it more properly done and can you get it REALLY smooth?

You need to ease off the throttle before upshift/downshift  as said before to unload the gears
and of course road speed must match selected gear or it won't be smooth at all

yes it can be done smooth .  you or i can put it in the next gear at about 7k . but i like to do it best at 9k  you get it up there let off the throttle real fast shift get back on it . pretty smooth fast ... and fun .

You just gotta practice at it until you get the feel of your gearing   I think most of the clutchless shifting I do is smoother than with a clutch.  I can upshift anywhere from 2.5k up with no real sudden drops in rpms to make it happen.  You just need to back some of the pressure off not a lot

I can shift faster and smoother without the clutch when I'm accelerating quickly...  If I'm putting around, I use the clutch.

If you're hard on the throttle, put up pressure on the shifter and quickly let off the throttle, then get right back on it...  Like a "blip," but in reverse...  Or something...

I hate to do this because it's agreeing with an old asshat   But yeah what RVert said

You don't hate to do it...  You love me.

I wouldn't go that far......but if I'm ever clear across the damn country I'll buy ya a beer

I still cant do it smooth.

1) I rev HIGH and let it drop off... nothing. The bike lurches with the strain and dropoff of acceleration.

2) I rev it HIGH even more abruptly, and give the shifter a little more pressure (2-3 lb upward force). It shifts abruptly, making a cracky noise and jerking me forward, doesn't sound or feel too good.

Do you let the throttle off completely before shifting?

It's like a blip...  But, it's a blip down, not up.......   Hang on, lemme see if I can find the thread.........

http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=18823.0