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Started by baco99, May 07, 2007, 06:26:56 AM

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baco99

i think i am done with this thing.  i've spent about $600 in parts to try and get it running, plus countless hours.  i had it running for about 20 minutes today after doing the valve shim deal, and then it stopped and i can't get it back.  i can't win



Oni

What's the bike doing?  I'm sure someone on this board can help you figure it out.

baco99

it's not starting. 

completed shim job
had carbs rejetted and synched
newer gas tank
it's getting fuel.

it just won't kick over and i don't know enough about the bike to get it running consistently.  posted in classifieds and craigslist if anyone's interested.


The Buddha

Wish you were closer.
Anyway, 20 mins and it dies ??? always ???
You may have fuel starvation. Or ... heck, see if your left carb is so rich and right is OK. then fuel tap is leaking at the vacuum diaphragm.
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ohgood

hey, if you're asking $2800, it's not going to happen friend. lookers will come and crash your bike during 'test ride' but that's about it.

and if it's not running and you try to sell it, you'll get really low ballers like $900 or worse, the old $1/CC deal.

anyway, I'd bet it's an electrical connection, like around the coils, and a small vibration made it work for the 20 minutes you mentioned.

don't forget to look at electrics! it can make it run like junk, not at all, or intermittant.

i also wouldn't spend any more money replacing parts until someone knowledgable (not saying you arent) has taken a crack at it.

fuel problems are weird but electrics are down right wild.

good luck, and don't go throwing that $600 dollars away (you are if you just ditch the bike) befor you get to enjoy it on the road. it's worth the effort.  :thumb:


tt_four: "and believe me, BMW motorcycles are 50% metal, rubber and plastic, and 50% useless

NiceGuysFinishLast

Quote from: ohgood on May 07, 2007, 02:49:32 PM
hey, if you're asking $2800, it's not going to happen friend. lookers will come and crash your bike during 'test ride' but that's about it.

and if it's not running and you try to sell it, you'll get really low ballers like $900 or worse, the old $1/CC deal.

anyway, I'd bet it's an electrical connection, like around the coils, and a small vibration made it work for the 20 minutes you mentioned.

don't forget to look at electrics! it can make it run like junk, not at all, or intermittant.

i also wouldn't spend any more money replacing parts until someone knowledgable (not saying you arent) has taken a crack at it.

fuel problems are weird but electrics are down right wild.

good luck, and don't go throwing that $600 dollars away (you are if you just ditch the bike) befor you get to enjoy it on the road. it's worth the effort.  :thumb:

Read, much? He's asking $800 OBO...
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Quote from: NiceGuysFinishLast on May 07, 2007, 02:52:00 PM
Quote from: ohgood on May 07, 2007, 02:49:32 PM
hey, if you're asking $2800, it's not going to happen friend. lookers will come and crash your bike during 'test ride' but that's about it.

and if it's not running and you try to sell it, you'll get really low ballers like $900 or worse, the old $1/CC deal.

anyway, I'd bet it's an electrical connection, like around the coils, and a small vibration made it work for the 20 minutes you mentioned.

don't forget to look at electrics! it can make it run like junk, not at all, or intermittant.

i also wouldn't spend any more money replacing parts until someone knowledgable (not saying you arent) has taken a crack at it.

fuel problems are weird but electrics are down right wild.

good luck, and don't go throwing that $600 dollars away (you are if you just ditch the bike) befor you get to enjoy it on the road. it's worth the effort.  :thumb:

Read, much? He's asking $800 OBO...

actually, i do. i did a craigslist search for his area (found it in his profile) assumed the asking price of the only gs ($2800) and posted.

oh, and you may also be refering to my comment about wasting $600. that's the amount he stated was already spent in parts.


just to clarify. :)


tt_four: "and believe me, BMW motorcycles are 50% metal, rubber and plastic, and 50% useless

baco99

i'm asking $800.

i re-jiggered the coils and got new wires, as suggested by members here.  saved me $150 in parts, but didn't seem to help.  i still think it's a fuel problem as i don't smell fuel when the bike's trying to turn over.  i don't think it's getting enough vaccuum to pull the fuel through the lines.


baco99

"You may have fuel starvation. Or ... heck, see if your left carb is so rich and right is OK. then fuel tap is leaking at the vacuum diaphragm."

this sounds interesting to me.  when i looked at the carbs, the left diaphram was moving up and down when running, in time with the cylinders.  the right was hardly moving at all, even when cranking the throttle.


how do i fix what you just said?

NiceGuysFinishLast

Quote from: ohgood on May 07, 2007, 04:51:28 PM
Quote from: NiceGuysFinishLast on May 07, 2007, 02:52:00 PM
Quote from: ohgood on May 07, 2007, 02:49:32 PM
hey, if you're asking $2800, it's not going to happen friend. lookers will come and crash your bike during 'test ride' but that's about it.

and if it's not running and you try to sell it, you'll get really low ballers like $900 or worse, the old $1/CC deal.

anyway, I'd bet it's an electrical connection, like around the coils, and a small vibration made it work for the 20 minutes you mentioned.

don't forget to look at electrics! it can make it run like junk, not at all, or intermittant.

i also wouldn't spend any more money replacing parts until someone knowledgable (not saying you arent) has taken a crack at it.

fuel problems are weird but electrics are down right wild.

good luck, and don't go throwing that $600 dollars away (you are if you just ditch the bike) befor you get to enjoy it on the road. it's worth the effort.  :thumb:

Read, much? He's asking $800 OBO...

actually, i do. i did a craigslist search for his area (found it in his profile) assumed the asking price of the only gs ($2800) and posted.

oh, and you may also be refering to my comment about wasting $600. that's the amount he stated was already spent in parts.


just to clarify. :)

http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=34961.0

Read a little more locally.  :thumb:
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baco99

is there a way to seal the slide without getting a new one?  can i use gasket sealer that i used for the valve cover?

Jughead

20 minutes Sounds like Just enough time to Warm some Electrical Dohicky up Enough to Quit working.Tried Checking for Fire on the Plugs?
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mach1

Your situation reminds me of me, I went through the same thing with my T-brid SC.  the car ran great until one day it just died and wouldnt start, I took it to a shop and they told me i broke the the thing that hold the harmonic balencer and crankshaft toghether, so I had them fix it and once I had the car back another problem showed itself after about three months and $1500 I gave up and sold it for $200 to a junk yard, and till this day I regret it. Im also having the same problem with my trooper cant seem to figure out why it won't run, so this time i said F it and am sending it to a shop next week to get a new motor and carb. Good luck and dont give up but also dotn just throw parts at it stand back look at your bike and figure out what it is doing and what its not doing and start trouble shooting Im sure you can figure it out.
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ohgood

squirrels. no really, small animals toying with the electrics will make a mess of things.ok, maybe just the electrics


oh, and don't let the squirrels have the keys, under any circumstances. they make squids look like nuns on rollerskates.


tt_four: "and believe me, BMW motorcycles are 50% metal, rubber and plastic, and 50% useless

The Buddha

Quote from: baco99 on May 07, 2007, 07:23:34 PM
is there a way to seal the slide without getting a new one?  can i use gasket sealer that i used for the valve cover?

Petcock diaphragm ?? If that black rubbery part is ripped and a tiny enough hole will do it in plenty ... I'll sell you the one good one I have for $5 and shipping.
Oh ... your petcock diaphragm or the vacuum diaphragm in your carbs. I saw your carbs, your vacuum diaphragm is fine. Unless you opened it later and messed it up.
Cool.
Srinath.
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JamesG

Ideas:
You may have killed your battery cranking on it. A battery can still have enough juice to spin the starter, but not enough to give a good spark. Do you have a battery charger/tender?

Did you check the plugs? After cranking some pull one or the other to see if they are wet with gas or carbon fouled.  After that, check to see if they are arcing properly by replacing them in their wire and then holding it against the cylinder (wait for the gas to dry first!).
James Greeson
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baco99

i checked and cleaned the plugs.
i installed new plug wire since one side was corroded
i have not opened the carbs up since Srini sent them back to me
i have the battery on a tender and it's a new battery with new acid.
i was cranking with the bike hooked up to my car with jump cables (no tender, obviously)

The Buddha

OK do this then.
Check float levels. And check if the diaphragms move up and down freely by hand.
Those can get knocked out of alignment when shipping. Usually if the floats are stuck a little shaking or tapping with a screw driver will set them good. And hand fiddling of slides will get it working too.
Cool.
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baco99

how do i check the float levels?

the slides do move up and down without much difficulty.

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