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Crankshaft stuck in place

Started by Adam R, October 03, 2003, 09:54:22 PM

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Adam R

It seems my crank is frozen in place.  I can't turn it with a 19mm wrench with a reasonable amount of force, and I'm not about to pull harder than I should.  My only thought is that maybe the washer that fell down from the cylinder head is somehow obstructing movement.  This ever happen before?
Current bikes:
1993 Honda NSR 250 SP
1994 Suzuki RGV 250 RR SP
1993 Yamaha Seca II

Adam R

I haven't installed the cams yet, so there is no undue tension from that end.  Here are the things that I have done since the crank last turned:

1) Removed and reinstalled cam chain tensioner, with screw turned all the way out.

2) Removed and reinstalled oil pan and oil filter.  Refilled with fresh oil.

3) Removed and reinstalled clutch cover.  

Man, I feel like an idiot.  The only reason I'm going through all of this is because I stupidly installed the head gasket upside down last weekend and the bike continued to leak oil  

Well, I guess I'm learning.
Current bikes:
1993 Honda NSR 250 SP
1994 Suzuki RGV 250 RR SP
1993 Yamaha Seca II

Adam Fraser

Hold the cam chain while turning the crank, it might be stuck in the cam gear and binding.

Richard UK

Could be the cam chain has fallen off the crank sprocket and is binding in the tunnel.

KevinC

Yep, it will be the cam chain. You'll probably have to take the tension off the chain, and try turning the crank both ways while lifting it up to get it free.

Adam R

Ok I can see where the cam chain is stuck in the tunel.  However, since I can't turn the crank at all, I don't see how I will be able to get this free.  Pulling on the chain and stretching it out to the opposite ends of the cylinder head doesn't seem to help.
Current bikes:
1993 Honda NSR 250 SP
1994 Suzuki RGV 250 RR SP
1993 Yamaha Seca II

Richard UK

The cam chain can bind when you remove the cams if you let the chain go slack.  It can fall off the teeth of the crank sprocket when it's slack, and then gets jammed between the face of the sprocket and the chain tunnel wall when you try to pull it tight again.

I use a home made tensioner to keep the chain tight when the cams are out.  It's just a wire hook and a bit of string with a small spanner.  Hook the cam chain, tie the hook to the string, pass the string through a metal eye screwed into my garage roof, then tie the spanner on the other end of the string.  You only just need to keep slack out of the chain and stop if falling.

If yours has got jammed like this try gently turning the motor backwards.  It may shake it free.  Then jiggle it about to try and engage it properly with the crank sprocket again.  Otherwise, you'll have to start taking things apart again.  

Good luck with it.

Adam R

I got it, although it wasn't gentle.  I got out the big ratchet and managed to break the bind free.  Now the cam chain has proper slack again.  I hope I didn't damage the sprocket or chain, but I don't think so.
Current bikes:
1993 Honda NSR 250 SP
1994 Suzuki RGV 250 RR SP
1993 Yamaha Seca II

yamahonkawazuki

you'll find out when you try to start it :mrgreen: , ah well such is the luck of the mechanic.....it happens to all of us at one time or another. ask rashad, he's went through more hell with his rebuild than anyone i know :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:
Jan 14 2010 0310 I miss you mom
Vielen dank Patrick. Vielen dank
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