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Thoughts on a few older bikes...

Started by baco99, June 03, 2007, 06:48:05 PM

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The Buddha

Ooooo ... a tank with plastic ...
OK a cult appealing tank ...
They are all huge and heavy ... and bullet proof. Just dont expect to ride any of them like you mean business ...
GT 750 suzuki should show plenty on goggle ...
Cool.
Srinath.
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baco99

Here's a pic of the Suzuki GS1000L.  Big, powerful, and decent-looking (without the backrest.)


makenzie71

yup...gs all the way (and the FZ cuz it's cheap haha).

The sissy bar is great...it's easy to pop on and off and when you're hauling a pillion it's a good feature.  It's nice to have something cute clinging to you on a short ride, but after a couple hundred miles it wears on both of you.

baco99

i won't have to worry about a passenger. 

The Buddha

With that bike its like having a passenger ... all the time, a nice 400 lb passenger ...  :thumb:
Cool.
Srinath.
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jp

The 82 is a GS750, not a GT. They stopped making the GT's in 76.

makenzie71

Quote from: seshadri_srinath on June 06, 2007, 04:36:56 AM
With that bike its like having a passenger ... all the time, a nice 400 lb passenger ...  :thumb:
Cool.
Srinath.


My 1000L weighed in at a whopping 510lbs wet.  Last GS500E I had on the scale tipped 424lbs wet (minus 50 miles of fuel).  80lbs....400lbs...what's the difference?   :laugh: :flipoff: :laugh:

I'll also point out that my 1000L had Uni-pods, flatsides, and a full kerker (plus appropriate jetting) and she put down 92.3rwhp and 71 ft/lbs on 92 pump gas.  Seems like there was something else but i can't remember...I think a TRE/ignition advance.  I would absolutely love to get another one but I'm holding out for the mythical "crazy find" VMax...

So basically you're gaining 100lbs and four times the power.

The Buddha

My eliminator weighed 530+/-10 lbs. Made 110 or so HP when some other clown dynoed it.
It still handled like an over loaded wheel barrow rolling downhill ...
Beyond a certain limit (and each person's limit is different) each lb hurts more than each HP helps. The savage weighs under 350 and makes 30 odd hp. I'd gladly take 50 more lbs for 10 more hp. But double it and I'd decline.
The weight carried by one bike might hurt a lot more than weight in another.
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makenzie71

trust me...the eliminator and the savage are cruisers.  The 1000L is a standard with a cushy seat.  Geometry is what makes the handling...not so much weight and power.

baco99

either way, this purchase might be put off for a while.  the baby came early!  so, i'll be at the hospital with mommy for a few days.

woot!

makenzie71

congrats....hey but you can probably get a much better bike if you trade a baby for it.  I hear babies are big bucks on the black market.

Mandres

Congrats on the offspring!  I would look really hard at the GS750 for $1000.  That's a fantastic bike, the same model that really made Suzuki's name and set the racing world on fire. 

bettingpython

Quote from: Mandres on June 07, 2007, 11:21:33 AM
...and set the racing world on fire. 

Congrats on the newborn :cheers:

I think you are confusing this bike with the CB750F. That was the bike that sat the racing world on fire everyone else was just an imitation. :2guns:
Why didn't you just go the whole way and buy me a f@#king Kawasaki you bastards.

Mandres

No doubt the CB750 was an important bike too.  But the Suzu was faster than the Honda and outhandled the Kawa 1000.  It was really the best sportbike you could buy when it came out.  I would love to pick one up someday.


baco99


The Buddha

Quote from: makenzie71 on June 06, 2007, 07:23:26 PM
trust me...the eliminator and the savage are cruisers.  The 1000L is a standard with a cushy seat.  Geometry is what makes the handling...not so much weight and power.

OK then ... nighthawk 650 ... Crappy handling as well ... heck the cruisers with the exception of the eli out handled it ... BTW a virago 1100 will totally beat the snot out of any GS 4 cyl cruiser or not ... so will a Maxim 700 aircooled, let alone a water cooled one.
Weight has a huge part ... May be the most important part ... in handling.
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makenzie71

hey lightweight bikes with laid back geometry don't handle for snot...virago 250 is a good example haha.

i've got to strongly disagree with you on the virago sentiment...having riden about every size and generation I can say that they've all handle like hell.  I just don't think it's good handling if you have to wrestle it.  The 1100 and 900 I rode...anytime you got her over 80mph and the front end would start wobbling.  Disturbing.  Now the Maxim, on the other hand, was pimp.  However, I think the bigger Maxims were more of a laid back standard, too...they lead the way to the F lineup.  The Maxim is also another good example of weight not being the biggest consideration;  My Maxim 400 will run circles around the virago 250, despite being built on the same frame and being heavier.

yamahonkawazuki

Quote from: baco99 on June 04, 2007, 09:26:53 AM
LOL.  Yes. 
To be honest, I really like the frustration of trying to fix stuff.  The satisfaction when you get it right is very cool.

Once I got the GS running, I almost decided to keep it.  But I got my asking price for it and can put that toward something else now. I'm actually leaning toward the Suzuki because the mechanical stuff will be familiar to me, parts seem plentiful, and it's running.  The FZ seems interesting for the price, but not sure I want a crotch rocket.  The Benelli looks like exactly what I want, cafe-style, but I don't think it comes with a clean title, which in MA means it's a no-go.

It's either another bike or an old Mercedes Diesel.  Decisions!
well hell, come get my kz400 which i cant find carbs for, and it runs or my gr650 which parts are hard to find parts for as well :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:, like you i do like a challenge, but these are f%$king pissing me off :mad: :mad: :laugh: :laugh:
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Vielen dank Patrick. Vielen dank
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baco99

OK, the Benelli is still an option.  I'm checking out 2 other options first. 
1) a 1981 Honda CB750 DOHC with a cafe conversion already done
2) a 1978 Suzuki GS 750 with a cafe conversion partially done

The Honda can be ridden home, the Suzuki comes in a box of parts, but is complete.

I'm leaning toward the Honda...  Any thoughts on the DOHC setup?

If these 2 don't work out, it's back to the Benelli.  I'm trying to negotiate the bike, plus a parts bike, with paperwork for $1200.


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