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Wierd Engine Sounds

Started by Jay_wolf, June 13, 2007, 12:37:43 AM

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Jay_wolf

I put on my lunchbox, and now its idling Fine , but it makes this spitting sound , like a tiny shot of air , every once in a while , its sorted out the Exhaust , now its not got smoke coming out of it , and it sounds alot better in idle , but i ve never heard it making these Spitting noises , and the odd Knocking Sound ? any ideas , because i think if i cant work out what it is , ill remove the lunchbox and put the stock filter back in ,

Thanks

Jay

Edit: i found the source of the Spitting sound ,



coming from the tube in my hand ,. otherwise its working fine , its hanging Ever so slightly , so i think ive got to do some adjusting on the mixture screws and the idle screw , as once it was well out and would idle at 4000 , then i dropped it down , then it would hang a little, then i adjusted agen , and it went away

Thanks agen!
2001 Gs500 , Katana Gsx Front End, K3 Tank,, Full S S Predetor System ,Bandit Rear Hugger,Goodridge S S Break Lines ,  Belly Pan , , K+N LunchBox, Probolt Bolts, FSD Undertray With Built in Lights And Indicators. 
2008 Megelli 125 SM 14bhp
1996 Honda NSR 125cc 33bhp
2001 Mercades A160  115bhp

Jay_wolf

ran my bike today because it started raining , and it didnt pop or anything , its almost like its sneezing , i can feel the air coming out of it when its idling , its very confusing ,.
2001 Gs500 , Katana Gsx Front End, K3 Tank,, Full S S Predetor System ,Bandit Rear Hugger,Goodridge S S Break Lines ,  Belly Pan , , K+N LunchBox, Probolt Bolts, FSD Undertray With Built in Lights And Indicators. 
2008 Megelli 125 SM 14bhp
1996 Honda NSR 125cc 33bhp
2001 Mercades A160  115bhp

ducati_nolan

Sounds like it's running really lean. The hanging RPM and poping can be caused by it running lean. The airbox muffles some of the sounds too so now with it off, you may just be hearing thing that were muffled before

You probally won't be able to take care of it with the mixture screw. You may be able to get it to idle alright, but you need new jets to richen it up across the RPM range.

Check the wiki and search here for more jetting info for your setup.

Jay_wolf

#3
Its been Rejetted . im not sure what tho , but its always run really really rich ,

its never made a poping sound before , and it hangs slightly , like , ever so ,

i dont want to open the carbs or nout , coz i wont beable to no mess it up ,

it still doesnt need the choke , starts first time ,and idles smooth in cold weather..

Edit: It Idles Bang on 1200 . its fine like that
2001 Gs500 , Katana Gsx Front End, K3 Tank,, Full S S Predetor System ,Bandit Rear Hugger,Goodridge S S Break Lines ,  Belly Pan , , K+N LunchBox, Probolt Bolts, FSD Undertray With Built in Lights And Indicators. 
2008 Megelli 125 SM 14bhp
1996 Honda NSR 125cc 33bhp
2001 Mercades A160  115bhp

scratch

Did you cap off that tube?  That would be your source of air causing the left carb to be lean, and seriously unbalances the vacuum between carbs.

Where you do have the hoses coming from the tank routed to?
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Jay_wolf

i dont scratch , i just put on the lunchbox. and they was dangling , ive started the bike maybe 2 times, is it ment to be capped? . as in something blocking it ?

Cheers Buddy
2001 Gs500 , Katana Gsx Front End, K3 Tank,, Full S S Predetor System ,Bandit Rear Hugger,Goodridge S S Break Lines ,  Belly Pan , , K+N LunchBox, Probolt Bolts, FSD Undertray With Built in Lights And Indicators. 
2008 Megelli 125 SM 14bhp
1996 Honda NSR 125cc 33bhp
2001 Mercades A160  115bhp

scratch

The motorcycle is no longer the hobby, the skill has become the hobby.

Power does not compare to skill.  What good is power without the skill to use it?

QuoteOriginally posted by Wintermute on BayAreaRidersForum.com
good judgement trumps good skills every time.

Jay_wolf

saying that , when i had my finger over it , the bike sounded fine.. mhmm but i thought i was being dumb.. clearly , i was   :thumb:

Thanks Buddy! :thumb:

any ideas what to use?
2001 Gs500 , Katana Gsx Front End, K3 Tank,, Full S S Predetor System ,Bandit Rear Hugger,Goodridge S S Break Lines ,  Belly Pan , , K+N LunchBox, Probolt Bolts, FSD Undertray With Built in Lights And Indicators. 
2008 Megelli 125 SM 14bhp
1996 Honda NSR 125cc 33bhp
2001 Mercades A160  115bhp

scratch

Spare bolt laying around, maybe, one of the mounting screws from the airbox.
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Power does not compare to skill.  What good is power without the skill to use it?

QuoteOriginally posted by Wintermute on BayAreaRidersForum.com
good judgement trumps good skills every time.

Wrecent_Wryder

Isnt' that the diaphragm vacuum tube to the petcock?  What's holding the petcock open?
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Jay_wolf

the one in my hand is coming from the left carb , no where near the tank
2001 Gs500 , Katana Gsx Front End, K3 Tank,, Full S S Predetor System ,Bandit Rear Hugger,Goodridge S S Break Lines ,  Belly Pan , , K+N LunchBox, Probolt Bolts, FSD Undertray With Built in Lights And Indicators. 
2008 Megelli 125 SM 14bhp
1996 Honda NSR 125cc 33bhp
2001 Mercades A160  115bhp

scratch

He means to a frame-mounted petcock, on U.S. models it has a diaphragm that only allows fuel past if vacuum is drawn on the other side by a running (or starting) engine.
The motorcycle is no longer the hobby, the skill has become the hobby.

Power does not compare to skill.  What good is power without the skill to use it?

QuoteOriginally posted by Wintermute on BayAreaRidersForum.com
good judgement trumps good skills every time.

Jay_wolf

ohhh, i seee

Thanks tho buddy  :thumb:
2001 Gs500 , Katana Gsx Front End, K3 Tank,, Full S S Predetor System ,Bandit Rear Hugger,Goodridge S S Break Lines ,  Belly Pan , , K+N LunchBox, Probolt Bolts, FSD Undertray With Built in Lights And Indicators. 
2008 Megelli 125 SM 14bhp
1996 Honda NSR 125cc 33bhp
2001 Mercades A160  115bhp

coll0412

Yeah, attach the tube in your hand to the frame mounted petcock, its the vacuum line that allows the petcock to open to allow fuel into the carbs when the bike is running. Then when you turn the bike off, the vacuum is gone, the petcock closes and stops fue flow to the carbs. :laugh:

The sneezing sound you hear is it doing a lean backfire up through the carbs, and its a good way to damage the diaphrams in the carbs, so hurry up an do it.
CRA #220

Jay_wolf

Its Sneezed About 6 times in total. yea i dont want to mess the carbs up at all , after the first 2 , i stopped it , then i had to find the problem , i dont think theres any damage at the moment , sounds fine
2001 Gs500 , Katana Gsx Front End, K3 Tank,, Full S S Predetor System ,Bandit Rear Hugger,Goodridge S S Break Lines ,  Belly Pan , , K+N LunchBox, Probolt Bolts, FSD Undertray With Built in Lights And Indicators. 
2008 Megelli 125 SM 14bhp
1996 Honda NSR 125cc 33bhp
2001 Mercades A160  115bhp

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