does anyone else do clutch-less shifting once in a while just for fun or when ur left hand is busy? i wanted to see if i could shift if the clutch cable/leaver broke. +2nd gear shifts pretty smooth at about 4.8k, almost smoother then using the clutch. couldnt really get it to work that well from 1st gear and at higher rpms.

Nope. I always clutch-In.

rarely

I'm trying to learn to do this and have yet to get it right. I've been told knowing when to shift is a "feel" thing. Guess I just don't have it. 

Only when I really want to get moving.

I figure the clutch lever is there, I'll use it.

Not much point in it really, seems like it's a distraction from traffic to me.

Quote from: dchrist on August 17, 2007, 01:28:08 PM
I'm trying to learn to do this and have yet to get it right. I've been told knowing when to shift is a "feel" thing. Guess I just don't have it. 

i pretty much got it on the first try, i was actually smoother the first tries rather then that later tries. all i did was rev it to just under 5k, put a little upwards pressure on the shifter(just like when ur finding neutral when stoped), and blip the throttle closed about 1/2 inch and back in a fast smooth twitch like motion. worked very smoothly after 2nd gear, 1st gear is way to jumpy ymmv. half-clutch works a lot better for my liking i was just curious.

ohgood: does it work well with higher rpms? seems liek shifting at 5k wouldnt really make it a faster getaway  .

well, i definitely did it a few times in my msf course... but i don't think that's what you're talking about 

yup, I do it once in a while just for fun,

but I really need to concentrate to do it smoothly

Every upshit is done that way, its so much faster when racing to do that then having to use the clutch,

never

ill do it when we are riding around town and i get bored .    Once and awhile ill do  it on the highway.

Quote from: nastynate6695 on August 17, 2007, 05:11:20 PM
ill do it when we are riding around town and i get bored .    Once and awhile ill do  it on the highway.

yeah it adds a little fun when ur just ridding around, just dont focus more on shifting then the road ahead of you which seemed to be the case for me

All the time, much smoother shifts for me. ymmv.

Toledo Jim: nice avatar- have it as my screen saver on my phone 

Only on the track, even then I may still tap the clutch.

Seems to be okay at around 4k revs or so. I just blip the throttle and usually it just slips right into the next gear. Dunno if this works for downshifting tho.

I don't do it very much because when I mess up, it makes this awful grinding feel and it makes me cringe.

I do it once in a while.

The trick for me is preloading the gear shifter - makes the shift ultra smooth.

Quote from: CndnMax on August 17, 2007, 01:36:09 PM
...........1st gear is way to jumpy ymmv..........

Wha? You mean that you make clutchless upshift into first gear?

Quote from: 510 on August 18, 2007, 01:04:21 AM
Seems to be okay at around 4k revs or so. I just blip the throttle and usually it just slips right into the next gear. Dunno if this works for downshifting tho.

I don't do it very much because when I mess up, it makes this awful grinding feel and it makes me cringe.

Do not do clutchless down shifts....unless you want to rebuild the tranny and replace shift forks.

Quote from: Affschnozel on August 18, 2007, 04:53:02 AM

Quote from: CndnMax on August 17, 2007, 01:36:09 PM
...........1st gear is way to jumpy ymmv..........

Wha? You mean that you make clutchless upshift into first gear?

oh from 1st to 2nd, 1st gear is to jumpy with the throttle for me to do it smoothly.