In the re-use vs recycle debate we seem to have forgotten the primary one, repair.

Repair first, then re-use or find another use altogether then and only then recycle.

Most goods these days are designed not to be repaired, toss and buy again, who wins?
and just about everything is over packaged especially those hard-as-nails bubble packs that you have to take a craft knife to. If we are going to get serious about this industry and retailers have to be given a shove, we can start by refusing plastic bags or even unpacking stuff in shops and leaving them the crap, yeah it is wasteful but it might make them take notice.

Oh dear, Kasumi, RAF, fast jets, have I got to start worrying about what falls on me 'ed?

indeed 

Quote from: Cal Price on November 13, 2007, 02:16:17 AM

Oh dear, Kasumi, RAF, fast jets, have I got to start worrying about what falls on me 'ed?

Depends on where you live?! hehehe. We do fast jet weapons training over the sea at RAF Valley in north Wales but then we also do some at RAF Akrotiri in Cyprus or we can do some in the Falklands... all depends whats left to practice blowing up hehehehe.

I wouldn't worry too much weapons training is along time away yet!

Yes Cal.
Reuse, repair or repurpose before recycling.
Cool.
Srinath.

Kasumi,

We get a fair bit of very low, very fast just-offshore flying here but must of it seems to be the cousins probably flying from East Anglia somewhere. Slightly more worrying are the occasional Belgian and French fighters......if push comes to shove we can scare them off with a rolled-up copy of "Peace News"

Where do ya live mate? I could probably tell you what aircraft fly there hehehe. The south coast is where most of the transport fleet are based at RAF Lyneham - the C-130 fleet is down there - all the hercules and stuff but then around london area you will see mostly the royal squadron at Northolt. Up the East coast is where the Eurofighter fleet is based at Coningsby, also some Tornados. Then you've got the ISTAR fleet based at Waddington like the Nimrod's and Sentry's. In Scotland they got a couple o tornado F3's at RAF Leuchers and then some Nimrod MR2's  at RAF Kinloss. All down the west coast though is mostly the base for training aircraft, like Hawk's at RAF Valley and Helicopter flightschool at Shawbury.

You can tell i've had to learn alot!

Quote from: seshadri_srinath on November 08, 2007, 03:31:46 PM
Yes ... I sorta surmised that ... but ooooo .... 600 miles on a tank sounds impressive ... while 30 mpg does not.

Are you kidding?  For an SUV?  My employees drive Dodge Ram 1500s and get about 17mpg on a good day, 30 mpg for an SUV with that kind of power is damn impressive.

That is about the same as explorer or heck its even smaller. Now on diesel it will make good diesel mileage. I know of 25 mpg trucks. They also make tons of torque inherently being diesel. That 30 mpg isn't that much and OK 400 hp is great. That is where its impressive, but to say 600 miles on a tank = BS.
Cool.
Srinath.

Kasumi,

I'm at Dover (hence the Avatar)
We see quite a few choppers as well, until recently Paras were based here and we have Ghurkas based nearbye. Most of the fast jets seem to be the cousins (U.S.) with the occasional big-fin thrown in, not seen a Eurofighter/Typhoon yet.