what years front end?   Whats different about them?   


Also I ordered my RU-2970 lunchbox filter, 150/40 jets, and a 43 tooth rear sprocket today.   Picked up a renthal Oring chain, and the perfect stainless baffle for my open exhaust.   My clubman handlebars should be here by thursday....


Next week will be a good week.    I just need to find a good tire in 140 70 17.....    Opinions?

Quote from: Foximus on December 08, 2007, 08:46:27 AM
where the hell do I tap into the block for an oil cooler??

Hi Foxi, a mate asked me the same question the other week, and I have been trying to look into it too.

It seems the F models have a different sump pan (I think that's the right bit) to the non-F - there are actually two ports open for the oil cooler hoses, right at the base (having a nekkid myself, I'm going by pics in the Haynes manual).

From what I can tell, the sump is more-or-less interchangeable between F and non-F, but someone else might like to confirm that (I'm keen to know myself). Year models may be different too.

From there, you'd just have to drill a few holes in the frame to mount the oil cooler itself.

bd.

I'll be first for dibs on prog springs.  How much shipped for the whole thing to 95503.  Northern california?

Oh, by the way, here is a vid of what I think you're trying to produce.  http://youtube.com/watch?v=mfGo2fC_o18

As a side note If you go 14t front and 44t rear you're gonna be pulling wheelies in 5th.  Start out with a 15t front, then get a 14t front.  I noticed a significant gain just by adding a 15t.  I think once I get another bike and this is going to be my town bike, then on will go a 14t and leave it at that.  There's no way you'll need to go up in the rear though with a 14t.

lol... you misunderstoon.  I was debating going to a 14 tooth OR a 44 tooth, not both.   I ended up doing neither and going with a 43 tooth rear.

And yea.. I saw that on youtube... I was kinda disapointed some else did the same thing, but whatever,  he did a hack job, and hes a wigger.

and sure you can get first dibs on my progressive springs when I sell them.

well... just got in and installed my 43 tooth rear**.   I only rode it around the block just now but I can sustain a 18" wheelie without using the clutch in first gear.   

Gonna give it another spin here in a few, so Ill get a better feel for it, but the motor definitely feels like its working less.   Just checked FedEx tracking and it says my lunchbox and jets just arrived at my parents house...    debating if i should try to switch that out tonight before my show at 10....   probably not... 

And my clubman handlebars also came in today, but I gotta go to the post office to pick them up.

tommarow will be a good day.




**For those of you wondering, 43 tooth rear is inbetween 15 and 14 front ratio wise.

43 tooth rear is between 14 and 15 front and you're sayin you managed POWER WHEELIE on GS500?? you have fuel injected GS500 or turbo charged 
as far as I know you cant even power wheelie GS500 having 14T front sprocket 

video??

cheers
KaMeL

PS. I'm not questioning you or tryin' to argue... I'm just confused/wondering.

lol... hey... I did it, and held it up what... 50-60 feet?

Just cruise at 5k in 1st gear and pull back and throttle open.... front comes right up.    Ive never done wheelies (other than tiney little things of a wheelie) so I was reluctant to try to pull it to high....     But yes... I power wheelied a 43tooth sprocket on a otherwise stock bike (though I advanced the ignition 7-8*)

Cant wait to install my lunchbox tommarow....      I wanna see if I can find any velocity cones to help the bottom end too, but I havnt seen any of those in forever....  old school jetski stuff...

bastids gave me the wrong main jets... something larger in size... not sure what to though... ugh.   

after a short trepidation, I got my second motorcycle running again and rode up to the local powersports store and got the correct 150 jets....   so lunchbox, 150 mains, and 40 pilots are installed, I forgot to get #4 washers, so I still only have the stock 1 washer, but it pulls smooth.     I cant tell if it has more power yet though...   The sprocket gave the most noticable power.    If this did give it more power its mostly 5k and up.    Hard to tell since it has UNI replacement filter already, (but still on stock jets)...         Since I havnt made my exhaust yet I drilled 4 holes in the can to let it flow a little better for the 150 mains....


Alsojust  installed my clubman bars (havnt even washed my hands yet).    They are nice, but idealy you need a 1" riser, otherwise they hit the fork caps and you really dont get the correct angle, and the bars angle down to much.   Its doable... but idealy you need 1/2" - 1" spacers. 

Quote from: Kasumi on December 07, 2007, 12:43:29 PM
Just increase the performance to counteract the weight you can't shed.

<------------------ Fit a power commander

Hey Kasumi, were you that guy who installed an EFI system onto a gs500? Cuz dude, I think that's freaking awesome. Must have took a lot of work and experimentation.

Yea me and CndnMax. It took alot of work thats for sure. We must have had several versions of the system before finally getting to one that would work. The problem we had is most EFI systems are designed for much larger bikes, so getting the right parts and the right size of system was hard work. And as you can see to get true performance you need to fit a power commander (<----) and theres not a whole lot of room under the tank once you got all the fuel injectors and EFI box squeezed in.

Quote from: Kasumi on December 20, 2007, 10:06:51 AM
Yea me and CndnMax. It took alot of work thats for sure. We must have had several versions of the system before finally getting to one that would work. The problem we had is most EFI systems are designed for much larger bikes, so getting the right parts and the right size of system was hard work. And as you can see to get true performance you need to fit a power commander (<----) and theres not a whole lot of room under the tank once you got all the fuel injectors and EFI box squeezed in.

How many horespower did you get? I bet you can do power wheelie in 6th gear now 

510 I hope you were jokin'... 

Well the bike dyno'd at 97.8hp with the EFI and power commander fitted. Just for statistics i have a jardine full exhaust system and K&N pod filters other than that everything is stock. Since we had the cylinder head apart installing the EFI we had it bored out to 540cc just to try and close the gap between the EFI we were using from an SV and the small engine in the GS. That could also go some way to getting the 97.8hp. All in all i think we did a good job. Its certinally unique and much more interesting and difficult and impresive when completed to convert a bike to EFI than it is to just fit a turbo and break everything...

97.8 hp?   assuming timing advance gets you perhaps up to 3-5hp.. (optimal) and pods/exhaust with rejet gets you 10-15 hp (optimal) thats still only 57 hp.... your saying the other 40 hp is gained just through using fuel injection?    i dunno about that....

yeah... and removing center stand gives you about 10 horsepower + fenderectomy 3-5 HP, so all together you've got at least 70 HP

Hey Kasumi did you ever do a full write up with some pics on the power commander or not...I was gone for a couple of months and thougt i might have missed it.

Quote from: kml.krk on December 20, 2007, 07:38:57 PM
yeah... and removing center stand gives you about 10 horsepower + fenderectomy 3-5 HP, so all together you've got at least 70 HP

thanks for the tips.   Imma get on that.

Quote from: Foximus on December 20, 2007, 06:50:22 PM
97.8 hp?   assuming timing advance gets you perhaps up to 3-5hp.. (optimal) and pods/exhaust with rejet gets you 10-15 hp (optimal) thats still only 57 hp.... your saying the other 40 hp is gained just through using fuel injection?    i dunno about that....

Nah to get the true 100hp GS mod i had to bore it out to 540cc it served too purposes really because fuel injection designed for an SV uses much larger injectors than our little ol' GS can handle so we upped the capacity to close the gap and then remapped the EFI. That also increased the horsepower exponentially ( i think thats the word) because we were increasing the horsepower using fuel injection as well as upping the capacity which would again increase the gain from the EFI. Also using EFI you can better utilize your exhaust to get custom fuel injection for your setup - something you can only guess changing jets and washers on carb'd bikes.

Quote from: nastynate6695 on December 20, 2007, 08:00:07 PM
Hey Kasumi did you ever do a full write up with some pics on the power commander or not...I was gone for a couple of months and thought i might have missed it.

No i never thought to do it, i was more focussed on the task! Its not a simple and easy bolt on thing tho... If you planned on racing and your racing class allowed for it it would be worth wile tho.

Quote from: Kasumi on December 20, 2007, 10:06:51 AM
Yea me and CndnMax. It took alot of work thats for sure. We must have had several versions of the system before finally getting to one that would work. The problem we had is most EFI systems are designed for much larger bikes, so getting the right parts and the right size of system was hard work. And as you can see to get true performance you need to fit a power commander (<----) and theres not a whole lot of room under the tank once you got all the fuel injectors and EFI box squeezed in.

Oh yeah, lots of work. had to resize the box to fit b/w the carbs, reshape the connectors and reshape the wires. took a few tries but we finally found the best configuration- the one that would fit just right as an avatar