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Started by charlesg1970, January 09, 2008, 10:59:31 AM

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charlesg1970

I was at the Super Show in Toronto on the weekend and saw two poducts claiming to eliminate the wheele balancing weights on motorcycles.  The products were "DynaBeeds" adn "DynaBalls".  the theory is that you put these tiny beeds in your tires and they will naturaly fine the optimum location in your tire to off set any wheel imbalance.  The benefits are your wheels are always perfetly balanced, you run smoother and less where on the tires and bike.  Also will clean up the look of the tires.

Has anyone tried either of these products?  Does is work of is it just a gimic.   there are testomonials on both companies web sites but I would rather hear from real people, also I was not able to find much from a google search because most sites are talking about dynamic wheel balancing with weights (the normal way)

Thanks

Charles :cheers:

The Buddha

Sorry man, I call BS. Loooooong story to explain. Anyway I'd like to see how it works instead of a bunch of dumbass rednecks claiming it works.
Cool.
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ohgood

Quote from: charlesg1970 on January 09, 2008, 10:59:31 AM
I was at the Super Show in Toronto on the weekend and saw two poducts claiming to eliminate the wheele balancing weights on motorcycles.  The products were "DynaBeeds" adn "DynaBalls".  the theory is that you put these tiny beeds in your tires and they will naturaly fine the optimum location in your tire to off set any wheel imbalance.  The benefits are your wheels are always perfetly balanced, you run smoother and less where on the tires and bike.  Also will clean up the look of the tires.

Has anyone tried either of these products?  Does is work of is it just a gimic.   there are testomonials on both companies web sites but I would rather hear from real people, also I was not able to find much from a google search because most sites are talking about dynamic wheel balancing with weights (the normal way)

Thanks

Charles :cheers:

I've used Fix-A-Flat before, and I can attest that it can completely  screw up a wheel and tires' balance.

here's a price for dynabeads:
DBS-1   Dyna Beads - 1 oz. - each   $2.99   
DBS-2   Dyna Beads - 2 oz. - each   $5.35   
DBS-3   Dyna Beads - 3 oz. - each   $6.49   
DBS-4   Dyna Beads - 4 oz. - each   $7.10   
DBS-5   Dyna Beads - 5 oz. - each   $8.29   
DBS-6   Dyna Beads - 6 oz. - each   $9.69   
DBS-8   Dyna Beads - 8 oz. - each   $12.89   
DBS-10   Dyna Beads - 10 oz. - each   $14.39   
DBS-12   Dyna Beads - 12 oz. - each   $17.19   
DBS-14   Dyna Beads - 14 oz. - each   $20.19   
DBS-16   Dyna Beads - 16 oz. - each   $22.99   
DBS-20   Dyna Beads - 20 oz. - each   $28.99   


Looks like a few strategically placed lead weights wins. I don't want _anything_ bouncing around inside my tires. I know there may be some tiny pieces of rubber in there eventually that balls up, but it's nothing of any mass like 1-3 ounces jostling around.


That being said, nope, I haven't used them :)



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The Buddha

Hey, they will bead blast and clean your rims ... of course that part of the rim that your tire isn't seated in usually isn't dirty and doesn't need to be cleaned ... but hey, just pointing out. Pretty soon you'd have a good 30-40 lbs of white flakes, cast metal, tire valve matreial and rubber in there, it will be like, you can let the air out and ride ... and it will run like its on sand. Cos ... well, it is.
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RichDesmond

They don't work.

Also, there's not much value in any dynamic balancing on a bike. Most (all??) race bike tires are statically balanced. If it works on a GSXR1000 at 180mph at Daytona it's probably ok on a GS.  :)
Rich Desmond
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Kerry

I'm having a hard time seeing how this idea could work.  It seems to be that either:

    1) The beads are somehow (or somehow become) "sticky", and once they find
        where they're needed, they attach themselves more or less permanently inside
        the tire.
or
    2) The beads aren't sticky at all, and roam around at will inside the tire.


In the first case, how much time would you have to "seat" the beads?  Would you have to go for a 100-mile ride right after the beads were installed?  Oh, and would you have to make sure you never hit the throttle or the accelerator during that ride?  Because, as ...

... in the second case, any appreciable acceleration or deceleration would send the beads rolling around inside the tire again.  If your tire needs 20 oz (!!) of "dynamic balancing", you don't want to have it suddenly go out-of-balance during an emergency stop.  :o
Yellow 1999 GS500E
Kerry's Suzuki GS500 Page

ohgood

Awwwwwwwwwww man ! Why didn't I notice the thread starter's post count ?

It's just spam. There are alot of links on the website for 'distributors' to sign up. Sheesh. I should have caught that to begin with.

Guess you can lock the thread with "SPAM" written all over it or whatever now.


tt_four: "and believe me, BMW motorcycles are 50% metal, rubber and plastic, and 50% useless

charlesg1970

Well I may be a noobe but no need to insult me because I am trying to get involved.

Not sure how it works just saw it at the show.  I think the idea is that the centrifugal force will keep the beads / balls etc. in place while riding.  That makes sense to me but  then as Kerry pointed out what happens when you stop hard?

Thanks for the input so far.

PS the recommended usage was 1.5 oz up front and 2oz in the rear....

Kerry

Quote from: charlesg1970 on January 11, 2008, 10:44:46 PMPS the recommended usage was 1.5 oz up front and 2oz in the rear....

Whew - that sounds better.  With such a small amount of weight involved (roughly in line with static weights, no?) I guess the idea is really intended for "fine tuning" and "results over the long haul".

I still don't see how it would help much in stop-and-go city traffic, but maybe static weights don't either?    Hmmmm.
Yellow 1999 GS500E
Kerry's Suzuki GS500 Page

dgyver

Quote from: ohgood on January 09, 2008, 05:32:41 PM
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Looks like a few strategically placed lead weights wins. I don't want _anything_ bouncing around inside my tires. I know there may be some tiny pieces of rubber in there eventually that balls up, but it's nothing of any mass like 1-3 ounces jostling around.
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I agree.

A lot of tires now are already balanced so you are actually balancing the wheel. I will stay with the stick-on lead weights. I would rather know my wheels are balanced than hoping something moving around in my tire will balance itself. Show me racer using them and I may have a different opinion about them.

Common sense in not very common.

ohgood

Quote from: charlesg1970 on January 11, 2008, 10:44:46 PM
Well I may be a noobe but no need to insult me because I am trying to get involved.

Not sure how it works just saw it at the show.  I think the idea is that the centrifugal force will keep the beads / balls etc. in place while riding.  That makes sense to me but  then as Kerry pointed out what happens when you stop hard?

Thanks for the input so far.

PS the recommended usage was 1.5 oz up front and 2oz in the rear....

Contributing is cool. You can understand where I got the notion, right ? ;)


tt_four: "and believe me, BMW motorcycles are 50% metal, rubber and plastic, and 50% useless

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