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Started by Villager, April 06, 2008, 07:44:58 AM

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Villager

So, the first mods I have settled on are replacement fork springs, 14t front sprocket and replacement filter (possibly). To help me decide, and order the right parts, I've got a few questions:

1) Is the K+N filter the best? Will this one fit? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/K-N-Air-Filter-SUZUKI-GS500-GV700-GV1200-GSX750-85-07_W0QQitemZ380013554163QQihZ025QQcategoryZ10534QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

2) Is there a noticeable performance benefit?

3) Will it make much difference to the sound of the bike? I would like a meatier roar.

4) I am confused about whether or not I would have to rejet. I don't have a US bike. If so, why is it necessary?



All help greatly appreciated!
Mods thus far:

14 tooth front sprocket
Complete paint job, red to black
Oxford heated grips
Fenderectomy
GSXR foot pegs

...much more to come!

makenzie71

Apex'i is, by a long shot, the best...but K&N is crazy cheap in comparison.  That does seem like the correct filter.

The alst three questions....not really.  You'd have to open up both ends of th engine.

Villager

Ok, I might not bother then. What's the cheapest and easiest way to add a phallic roar?
Mods thus far:

14 tooth front sprocket
Complete paint job, red to black
Oxford heated grips
Fenderectomy
GSXR foot pegs

...much more to come!

kml.krk

Quote from: Villager on April 06, 2008, 08:40:14 AM
Ok, I might not bother then. What's the cheapest and easiest way to add a phallic roar?
K&N RU-2970 (aka LUNCHBOX) and high flowing aftermarket pipe, rejet is a MUST! If you don't rejet your engine will lose a lot of power and eventually blow!
good luck
Yellow 2004: K&N Lunchbox, Leo Vince SBK, 2005 GSXR Turn Signals, 20/65/147.5, 15T front sprocket, Progressive Springs etc...

"Bikes get you through times of no money better than money gets you through times of no bikes." - Phineas

makenzie71

"Phalllic roar"?  bwhahahahahahahah

As said, lunchbox or pods exhausting through a straight can. 

ben2go

Quote from: Villager on April 06, 2008, 07:44:58 AM
So, the first mods I have settled on are replacement fork springs, 14t front sprocket and replacement filter (possibly). To help me decide, and order the right parts, I've got a few questions:

1) Is the K+N filter the best? Will this one fit? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/K-N-Air-Filter-SUZUKI-GS500-GV700-GV1200-GSX750-85-07_W0QQitemZ380013554163QQihZ025QQcategoryZ10534QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

2) Is there a noticeable performance benefit?

3) Will it make much difference to the sound of the bike? I would like a meatier roar.

4) I am confused about whether or not I would have to rejet. I don't have a US bike. If so, why is it necessary?



All help greatly appreciated!



That is the correct drop in filter.No rejet is need unless the restrictor is removed.
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Villager

What about an exhaust by itself? Could that deliver performance + roar, or does it need the "lunchbox" (what an odd name) too?
Mods thus far:

14 tooth front sprocket
Complete paint job, red to black
Oxford heated grips
Fenderectomy
GSXR foot pegs

...much more to come!

ben2go

Quote from: Villager on April 06, 2008, 12:15:59 PM
What about an exhaust by itself? Could that deliver performance + roar, or does it need the "lunchbox" (what an odd name) too?

Either way you'll have to rejet.An open filter like the K&N lunch box will give you some intake moan.For best performance and sound lunch box and performance exhaust.Check this links out.

http://cgi.stanford.edu/~sanjayd/gs500/Upgrades/AirFilter

http://cgi.stanford.edu/~sanjayd/gs500/Upgrades/Exhaust

http://cgi.stanford.edu/~sanjayd/gs500/Upgrades/Rejetting

http://cgi.stanford.edu/~sanjayd/gs500/Upgrades/Rejetting-LeanOrRich?

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philward

Quote from: Villager on April 06, 2008, 07:44:58 AM
...Is there a noticeable performance benefit?

I recently put on a K&N lunchbox and rejetted.  And to answer your question, it depends what you mean by 'performance'.

If by performance you simply mean, is there more power?  Probably in a numerical sense, but it's too subtle an increase to really tell.

But if by performance you mean the quality of the ride and the usability of the power, then it makes a huge difference.  I find that my throttle response has been transformed, the power delivery is instant, and start-up has improved dramatically.  :thumb:

I say that it's a great upgrade - and while you're rejetting you may aswell put a new pipe on too.  :icon_razz: :icon_mrgreen:
Formerly:
'05 GS500F
fairingless, twin dominator headlights, MC case-guards, alu pegs, alu bar-ends, Yoshi TRS + K&N RU-2970 (22.5/65/147.5), twin Stebel HF80/2 horns, fenderectomy, Oxford HotGrips

Currently:
Honda CBF1000

Kurlon

Quote from: makenzie71 on April 06, 2008, 08:02:04 AM
Apex'i is, by a long shot, the best...but K&N is crazy cheap in comparison.

Does Apex'i have a GS500E filter?  (not having much luck with google at the moment)
1991 GS500E - LRRS/CCS Novice #771

ben2go

Quote from: philward on April 06, 2008, 05:31:06 PM
Quote from: Villager on April 06, 2008, 07:44:58 AM
...Is there a noticeable performance benefit?

I recently put on a K&N lunchbox and rejetted.  And to answer your question, it depends what you mean by 'performance'.

If by performance you simply mean, is there more power?  Probably in a numerical sense, but it's too subtle an increase to really tell.

But if by performance you mean the quality of the ride and the usability of the power, then it makes a huge difference.  I find that my throttle response has been transformed, the power delivery is instant, and start-up has improved dramatically.  :thumb:

I say that it's a great upgrade - and while you're rejetting you may aswell put a new pipe on too.  :icon_razz: :icon_mrgreen:


That would be better performance.  :thumb:
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makenzie71

Quote from: Kurlon on April 07, 2008, 09:16:25 AM
Quote from: makenzie71 on April 06, 2008, 08:02:04 AM
Apex'i is, by a long shot, the best...but K&N is crazy cheap in comparison.

Does Apex'i have a GS500E filter?  (not having much luck with google at the moment)

Not a drop-in replacement, but they make pods.

ohgood

Quote from: Villager on April 06, 2008, 08:40:14 AM
Ok, I might not bother then. What's the cheapest and easiest way to add a phallic roar?

man that got me laughin- :)

you could chop up the stock pipe. that would mean rejetting though. the lunchbox and whatever free flowing pipe will do just what you want. yes, the rejetting gets 'interesting', but if you want that sound, that's how.

it's a pretty fun thing though, when you finally get rid of the popping and flat spots, and it just runs right.


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