Ok so i just bought my first motorcycle, a 2007 GS500F. I love the bike. It's so easy to ride, and after 2 days I'm already riding on the street with confidence. My only problem is that after the second day of riding. The bike stalled, and wouldn't start. I was able to get it to start with the choke on but as soon as I took the choke off, the bike would sputter and stall. If i kept the RPM's up the bike would stay on, but would sometimes bog a bit. Throttle was slow at most points and would sometimes die when given too much throttle.

I'm thinking that maybe I should get a full tank of gas and add some stabilizer to the mix since it might have been sitting for a while. Or possibly the bike was not adjusted properly before delivery. Does anyone have any suggestions as to what the problem may be? Any input is greatly appreciated.

Steve

Did you purchase from a dealer or an individual?

Quote from: lewismug on April 28, 2008, 01:48:14 PM
Did you purchase from a dealer or an individual?

Purchased from a dealer in NJ. Motorcycle Mall in Belleville.

+1 on the full tank of gas.  Is the petcock in Res or On positions?  Try Res, or, if it is already on Res, you may be out of gas.

Try gas before you do ANYTHING else. The same thing happened to me when I first had my GS.  Embarrassing moment.

Quote from: trumpetguy on April 28, 2008, 02:33:02 PM
+1 on the full tank of gas.  Is the petcock in Res or On positions?  Try Res, or, if it is already on Res, you may be out of gas.

Try gas before you do ANYTHING else. The same thing happened to me when I first had my GS.  Embarrassing moment.

Haha yea imagine my surprise when I'm riding tryin to make a left turn and the bike wont go. Then there I am pushing the bike back home with all the neighbors looking at me. Yea the switch is in the ON position, I'll try to switch it to RES. I can still see gas in there so I know that there's some remaining. Thanks for replying

Steve

Also try it on PRIme.The petcock vacuum diaphram maybe bad.Doubt it but it's common on older bikes.

Quote from: sdufresne on April 28, 2008, 02:53:03 PM
I can still see gas in there so I know that there's some remaining.

  fill er up!

drain it and then fill up the tank...it could be a vacuum problem which is typical for the gs

Quote from: CndnMax on April 28, 2008, 03:38:10 PM

Quote from: sdufresne on April 28, 2008, 02:53:03 PM
I can still see gas in there so I know that there's some remaining.

  fill er up!

I had half a tank when I started, went 15 miles, highly doubt the tank is empty.

the tank is gravity fed, there are times where it would look like youve got plent, but will not have enough

How long are you letting it warm up?  The GS needs to be on choke for at least 5 minutes unless it has been rejetted.

Quote from: sdufresne on April 28, 2008, 01:39:52 PM
Ok so i just bought my first motorcycle, a 2007 GS500F. I love the bike. It's so easy to ride, and after 2 days I'm already riding on the street with confidence. My only problem is that after the second day of riding. The bike stalled, and wouldn't start. I was able to get it to start with the choke on but as soon as I took the choke off, the bike would sputter and stall. If i kept the RPM's up the bike would stay on, but would sometimes bog a bit. Throttle was slow at most points and would sometimes die when given too much throttle.

I'm thinking that maybe I should get a full tank of gas and add some stabilizer to the mix since it might have been sitting for a while. Or possibly the bike was not adjusted properly before delivery. Does anyone have any suggestions as to what the problem may be? Any input is greatly appreciated.

Steve

Welcome to the wonderful world of carburetors !

Always begin your diagnosis with a full tank of gas, petcock set to 'prime', and check the crankcase oil:

Unscrew the dipstick, wipe it off, place it back in the case, but do NOT screw it in. In the hash marks is where you want it. Underfilled = stress to the motor. Over filled = trouble shifting into/out of 1st gear.

The gs should rev freely without a load. If not, it's either cold, or someone monkeyed with the carbs.

The gs should idle smoothly (once warm) and return to idle from a rev easily, smoothly, and quickly. Any slow to return could be a vacuum leak.

The gs should idle around 1200-1600 rpm, and smoothly. There is a BIG brass thumb screw underneath the carbs that will increase / decrease the idle while you turn it. ONLY adjust it once the bike is fully warm.

If the engine's cooling fins are too hot to touch, it should be warm enough to ride. Don't burn yourself.

The gs does NOT require a poorer grade of fuel than 87 octane. Notice, I said poorer, because it burns and ignites more SLOWLY at octanes above 87 octane. Why does poorer octane fuel cost more ? Marketing is my guess, and stupid people.

Oh, and the 'bogging' question. Yes, it needs some revs to move, and from a stop, you'll need around 1800-2500, depending on your skill with the clutch.

All this is my opinion, and experience. YMMV

Welcome to the forum !

welcome

Quote from: ohgood on April 29, 2008, 05:48:18 AM

Quote from: sdufresne on April 28, 2008, 01:39:52 PM
Ok so i just bought my first motorcycle, a 2007 GS500F. I love the bike. It's so easy to ride, and after 2 days I'm already riding on the street with confidence. My only problem is that after the second day of riding. The bike stalled, and wouldn't start. I was able to get it to start with the choke on but as soon as I took the choke off, the bike would sputter and stall. If i kept the RPM's up the bike would stay on, but would sometimes bog a bit. Throttle was slow at most points and would sometimes die when given too much throttle.

I'm thinking that maybe I should get a full tank of gas and add some stabilizer to the mix since it might have been sitting for a while. Or possibly the bike was not adjusted properly before delivery. Does anyone have any suggestions as to what the problem may be? Any input is greatly appreciated.

Steve

Welcome to the wonderful world of carburetors !

Always begin your diagnosis with a full tank of gas, petcock set to 'prime', and check the crankcase oil:

Unscrew the dipstick, wipe it off, place it back in the case, but do NOT screw it in. In the hash marks is where you want it. Underfilled = stress to the motor. Over filled = trouble shifting into/out of 1st gear.

The gs should rev freely without a load. If not, it's either cold, or someone monkeyed with the carbs.

The gs should idle smoothly (once warm) and return to idle from a rev easily, smoothly, and quickly. Any slow to return could be a vacuum leak.

The gs should idle around 1200-1600 rpm, and smoothly. There is a BIG brass thumb screw underneath the carbs that will increase / decrease the idle while you turn it. ONLY adjust it once the bike is fully warm.

If the engine's cooling fins are too hot to touch, it should be warm enough to ride. Don't burn yourself.

The gs does NOT require a poorer grade of fuel than 87 octane. Notice, I said poorer, because it burns and ignites more SLOWLY at octanes above 87 octane. Why does poorer octane fuel cost more ? Marketing is my guess, and stupid people.

Oh, and the 'bogging' question. Yes, it needs some revs to move, and from a stop, you'll need around 1800-2500, depending on your skill with the clutch.

All this is my opinion, and experience. YMMV

Welcome to the forum !

Haha thanks for being so informative! I just gave that a quick read but later on I will sit down and really look into it. I appreciate your input on this situation, it's almost like being the new kid at a new school. Everything is just new for me, again thank you!

Steve

Quote from: sdufresne on April 28, 2008, 10:48:21 PM

Quote from: CndnMax on April 28, 2008, 03:38:10 PM

Quote from: sdufresne on April 28, 2008, 02:53:03 PM
I can still see gas in there so I know that there's some remaining.

  fill er up!

I had half a tank when I started, went 15 miles, highly doubt the tank is empty.

If you search "it just needed more gas" you will know why i made that comment , not to say that this is definitely your problem but it is a good lace to start 

Clutch lever?  I had problems with my bike that sounded similar to yours and the last place I would have looked was there.

Quote from: DarkStarr on April 29, 2008, 05:51:02 PM
Clutch lever?  I had problems with my bike that sounded similar to yours and the last place I would have looked was there.

Its funny that you say that cause it does seem that the clutch does not engage all the way, I tried the gas/ fuel stabilizer attempt to no avail. So I am bringing it back to the dealer this week to have them check it out. What did they repair when it happened?

All the tech did was adjust the lever so that it didn't have as much play.  Happened on the 2nd or 3rd day after I bought it.

Hi there Steve,
I hope you are getting your running issues sorted out.
What caught my attention about your post, though, was your comment that you are already riding "with confidence" on the street after two days of learning to ride.

Quote from: sdufresne on April 28, 2008, 01:39:52 PM
Ok so i just bought my first motorcycle, a 2007 GS500F. I love the bike. It's so easy to ride, and after 2 days I'm already riding on the street with confidence.

I must say, that's an accident waiting to happen.
Have you taken the MSF beginning riders class yet and completed it?
Riding a motorcycle is entirely different than driving any other vehicle you are used to.
If you are truly riding with confidence after two days, I think you need to re-evaluate your approach.
You have lots to learn and that will only come with riding experience. You should have the best training that you can get, full, quality riding gear and a healthy respect for the machine and for the traffic and idiotic drivers you will be riding amongst.
I have a 16-year-old daughter who has her car driving permit and is learning to drive. She has been on a permit for two months.
Recently I pointed out something she did wrong wile driving and she got annoyed with me and said, "Dad, I know how to drive!!"
I responded, "Honey, you do NOT know how to drive. You are LEARNING how to drive."
I think that that is good advice for you and other beginning riders as you begin to share this wonderful and dangerous love that we call motorcycling.
I just want you to be safe.
Have fun and I hope you take this with the caring and concern with which I wrote it. I've been riding since I was 16 years old in 1975, when I bought my first motorcycle. I have owned one continuously ever since. I have lots of miles under my belt and lots of riding experiences. I'm telling you, every day I learn something new on my motorcycle. And every summer, I take the MSF Experienced Riders Class. You always need to upgrade and practice your skills, I think.
Best wishes,
Todd

Quote from: Trwhouse on April 30, 2008, 08:32:40 AM
Hi there Steve,
I hope you are getting your running issues sorted out.
What caught my attention about your post, though, was your comment that you are already riding "with confidence" on the street after two days of learning to ride.

Quote from: sdufresne on April 28, 2008, 01:39:52 PM
Ok so i just bought my first motorcycle, a 2007 GS500F. I love the bike. It's so easy to ride, and after 2 days I'm already riding on the street with confidence.

I must say, that's an accident waiting to happen.
Have you taken the MSF beginning riders class yet and completed it?
Riding a motorcycle is entirely different than driving any other vehicle you are used to.
If you are truly riding with confidence after two days, I think you need to re-evaluate your approach.
You have lots to learn and that will only come with riding experience. You should have the best training that you can get, full, quality riding gear and a healthy respect for the machine and for the traffic and idiotic drivers you will be riding amongst.
I have a 16-year-old daughter who has her car driving permit and is learning to drive. She has been on a permit for two months.
Recently I pointed out something she did wrong wile driving and she got annoyed with me and said, "Dad, I know how to drive!!"
I responded, "Honey, you do NOT know how to drive. You are LEARNING how to drive."
I think that that is good advice for you and other beginning riders as you begin to share this wonderful and dangerous love that we call motorcycling.
I just want you to be safe.
Have fun and I hope you take this with the caring and concern with which I wrote it. I've been riding since I was 16 years old in 1975, when I bought my first motorcycle. I have owned one continuously ever since. I have lots of miles under my belt and lots of riding experiences. I'm telling you, every day I learn something new on my motorcycle. And every summer, I take the MSF Experienced Riders Class. You always need to upgrade and practice your skills, I think.
Best wishes,
Todd