OK Rant follows ... huge rant ...

OK for a month I been trying to buy bungee cord by the foot.
Problem is ... not available ... anywhere.
I know we're not capable of manufacturing anything, but are we now forgetting how to sell anything too.

Pathetic.
Some genius CEO is going ... Hey, the job of selling to the dummies who walk int the door ... yea I'll outsource that to china as well.
OH yea, let me outsource the job of "the worlds richest guy" to a mexican, buy crapola from china and heck not even buy and resell here, I'll just let the chineese guys sell it to my local customers.
WTF.
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Buddha.

Tried Here?
http://www.bungeeco.com/

20 buck minimum ... I dont mind that, except they got nothing else I needed ... anyway I flea-bayed it, and its comming from hongkong or seattle or where ever ...
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Buddha.

thats the unfortunate part , is we as north americans can't manufacture for our-selves anymore  give everything for china now , what happens if china shuts down , we are f*cked 

Quote from: ajaxgs on April 30, 2008, 10:58:25 AM
thats the unfortunate part , is we as north americans can't manufacture for our-selves anymore  give everything for china now , what happens if china shuts down , we are f*cked 

na, we're ok. mexico is making allot of our junk now. oh, i meant 'fine quality manufactured goods and services', not junk. sorry.

there is nothing wrong with NAFTA, just look at the value of the dollar. it still buys 1/3rd of a gallon of gas, 1/2 a loaf of bread, 1/5th a gallon of milk... oh wait, those aren't good things to compare... ok, look at these  cheap plastic shits from wal-mart ! wow what a bargain !

We will just plunge china into a recession when the dollar tanks (thanks to Bill Bernanke and the inkjets - BTW why is the government hiding the money supply figure ) ... then chineese crap will start to go up in $$$ cos they will have to de index the yuan from the dollar and that should serve as the first sign to start the manufacturing and other real work cranking again. You know, in the late 80's we were going to be eaten alive by japan ... see where that went ...
Honestly ... the last 3-4-5 years has been a fake economy entirely revolving around building houses that no one wants ... 6 million for rent, 3 million vacant and that's not even counting the ones that are off the books ...
Seriously I want to see the US making things again ... some US made stuff is so far above the chineese crap, its not even funny.
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Quote from: The Buddha on April 30, 2008, 11:06:41 AM
We will just plunge china into a recession                ... some US made stuff is so far above the chineese crap, its not even funny.
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hey i know , i sell auto parts , shite rotors from china 15.00, and good actualy made in north america rotors 50-80 bucks , like wtf but you only replace the rotors once with the good ones .......as for NAFTA i would love to see them open it again 

unfortunately i partailly blame this not only on the dollar, but the unions as well. look at a business. theyre in it to make money. china does it f%$king cheap, unfortunately, often cheap quality as well

Quote from: yamahonkawazuki on April 30, 2008, 12:20:47 PM
often cheap quality as well

thats the f@cking understatment of the year

Its all part of China's plan for world domination, you see what they intend to do is strike a deal with your government, and all the business' over there and say we will make all your shaZam! for cheap. Next thing you know your Marine's M16 assault rifle will say 'Made in China' on the bottom. Then when china come to declaring war and invading your country they will just ship you the plastic toy versions and you will be fooked lol.


On a side note i wonder if Rover and MG cars now have Made in China underneath like Matchbox and HotWheels cars do!

For the second and most widely distributed prodiction run of M16s during the Vietnam era, the hand guards, butt-stock, and pistol grips were made in Hong Kong by Mattel.  And oh yeah, China SUX I work in electronics manufacturing with production facilities in Penang, Shanghai, Bejing, etc...I've HAD to go there three times in two years and have never been seen such inefficiency, inadequacy, and wasted prodiction potential.  They have the manpower, they have been GIVEN the machinery, technology and training with other countries footing the bill, and still produce such crap.  I've spent painstaking months training f@cking subnoid communists over and over again to do the most basic tasks.  The same training in Mexico and Brazil took a mere matter of days, in Ho Chi Min city (Saigon) in took less than two weeks. 

Maybe communism creates learning disabilities?

Quote from: 451 F on April 30, 2008, 08:41:30 PM
Maybe communism creates learning disabilities?

china is like america was 100 or so years ago when it comes to labour and labour laws.  like taiwan and hong kong, china's standard of living will rise and thus so will costs. eventually the whole thing will collapse.  the dollar is going into the shitter and that will only speed up this process

They're making like 25% ?? of our medicines, just look at the Heparin scandal, after the lead paint on toys and melamine in pet food, probably human food too, and oh yeah, something like ethylene glycol in cough syrup and toothpaste, some kind of poison in dumplings sent to Japan, they're killing people off left and right all around the world, (on purpose IMO) and when they kill everyone off and have attained world dominion, who are they going to counterfeit from?   

Oh and brake rotors that warp immediately and wheel bolts that you can use only once because they strip out if you back them out. 

indeed 

Somehow India is flying under the radar. They are capable of making some good stuff and while it may be more than china, its not crap, in fact a lot of it is better than what you get in the US. BTW, if you have ever stood on a manhole cover, you have more than likely left your life in the hands of some Injun in some foundry somewhere.
BTW I have bought non stick utensils in india 15 years ago, that still fell like they are new ... unbelievable. Our duration for how long somehting should last ... easy, a life time. we have things that used to belong to my wife's great grand mother. We have and actively drive cars made in the 60's ... maybe now they have gone to cheap plastic crap ... but even 10 years ago, it was built to last.
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Quote from: The Buddha on May 01, 2008, 07:54:47 AM
Somehow India is flying under the radar. They are capable of making some good stuff and while it may be more than china, its not crap, in fact a lot of it is better than what you get in the US. BTW, if you have ever stood on a manhole cover, you have more than likely left your life in the hands of some Injun in some foundry somewhere.
BTW I have bought non stick utensils in india 15 years ago, that still fell like they are new ... unbelievable. Our duration for how long somehting should last ... easy, a life time. we have things that used to belong to my wife's great grand mother. We have and actively drive cars made in the 60's ... maybe now they have gone to cheap plastic crap ... but even 10 years ago, it was built to last.
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but  i don't mind buying goods labled india or packastan , the textiles are very good quality!!!

Pakisthan is also pretty damn good. Except they have so much fewer things they make in large quantity.
BTW the ultimate thing from India ... granite. Also leather as well as several other things are excellent. Back in the early 90's I knew people who could cut open shocks and rebuild them Amazing.
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we have a company who buy car/truck rads from us to copy and manufature 

Quote from: 451 F on April 30, 2008, 08:41:30 PM
in Ho Chi Min city (Saigon) in took less than two weeks. 

Maybe communism creates learning disabilities?

too an extent. Viet Nam is still a communist state.

What it comes down to is the psychy of the people/person on whether they want to advance themselve.