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stripped oil pan bolt?

Started by Kaizer, May 04, 2008, 08:14:08 PM

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Kaizer

Bad news. I have been leaking oil from the bolt. It could be stripped or the pan could be. Not sure. My friend I think overtightened it when we changed the oil. Now I am losing oil from it and it won't stop. Should I use RTB ultrablack or ultracopper, see if it will seal the bolt, or what should I do? IT won't tighten. It just keeps spinning and when I ride, it loosens up. Damn it! Just one damn thing after another. Also, what could cause oil to leak around the edges of the top of the engine the part that is right next to the pipes and top of the engine right below the tank? Thanks.

Fry

Could be valve cover gasket leaking from up top, or the crank case breather thingy?

Autopart stores sell these expanding rubber oil pan plug kits, where with a tool a rubber plug is pushed into your oil pan bolt location, the tip expands slightly once in there creating a tight fit. You then use the plastic tool to remove it when needed.

I've used these on a couple dirtbikes with great results.
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ben2go

Valve cover gasket on top and use an O-ring on the oil drain bolt.Don't over tighten it next time.
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yamahonkawazuki

Quote from: Fry on May 04, 2008, 08:50:57 PM
Could be valve cover gasket leaking from up top, or the crank case breather thingy?

Autopart stores sell these expanding rubber oil pan plug kits, where with a tool a rubber plug is pushed into your oil pan bolt location, the tip expands slightly once in there creating a tight fit. You then use the plastic tool to remove it when needed.

I've used these on a couple dirtbikes with great results.
yup similar to a waterplug for a boat :thumb:
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Kaizer

Ok, so here is the deal. the bolt is PERFECT. the oil pan is stripped. so...we called this place that redrills the pans for 30 bucks. problem is, you must order an oil seal gasket and install it. no time. so...the plan is, put the silicone puty on the bolt, and let it sit for 24 hrs. my friend said it works great. but next time for oil change, take it in, get it redrilled and refitted. what do you think? where can i get the oil pan plug? walmart?

ben2go

Sealants will block the oil passages and cause severe engine damage.
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beRto

Quote from: Kaizer on May 05, 2008, 04:09:55 PM
Ok, so here is the deal. the bolt is PERFECT. the oil pan is stripped. so...we called this place that redrills the pans for 30 bucks. problem is, you must order an oil seal gasket and install it. no time. so...the plan is, put the silicone puty on the bolt, and let it sit for 24 hrs. my friend said it works great. but next time for oil change, take it in, get it redrilled and refitted. what do you think? where can i get the oil pan plug? walmart?

It's your bike, but you'll regret not fixing it properly if that bolt falls out while riding.  :dunno_white:

ben2go

If you have a fairing that covers the bottom of your bike, like I do,you will not know if the bolt falls out until the engine grenades.
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ajaxgs

take the pan off and get some one to put a heli-coil in it for you then it is a permanent repair
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erbilabuc

I have an oil pan with the plug. 25$ shipped to your door in the lower 48

not trying to thread jack but this will be your best bet
riders formely known as IMPORTBABE

Kaizer

what are you guys talking about? how would the sealant damage the damn engine? it is going ON the bolt not inside the engine. I dont understand. and on top of that, I check my bike from head to toe daily so I know if something is missing or not. the bolt is not so loose that it will come out. with the silicone stuff, it should stay put. plus, it will hold me until I get my replacement pan and fit it.

ben2go

The sealant will squish up thru the threads and get into the oil.
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04gs

Quote from: Kaizer on May 05, 2008, 07:47:44 PM
what are you guys talking about? how would the sealant damage the damn engine? it is going ON the bolt not inside the engine. I dont understand. and on top of that, I check my bike from head to toe daily so I know if something is missing or not. the bolt is not so loose that it will come out. with the silicone stuff, it should stay put. plus, it will hold me until I get my replacement pan and fit it.

Silicon is something a guy with a mullet uses on his 1984 350 chevy truck.  Do it right and get a helicoil, if not then its your bike not mine have fun.  the problem with silicon is that it is soft and rubbery.  it can peal from the threads and float around into the motor.  the passage ways inside the motors are really tight.  your motor will have oil on the pan threads so the sealant will never stick.

IF anything i would wrap the bolt with telfon tape on the threads and drip a little red locktight onto it to keep it in place until you get some money to helicoil it.  This is only if i didn't care about the bike and whether it gets damaged or not

Kaizer

okay, so here's the deal. I am getting a new pan ordered and put it. what is a heli-coil? I thought the way to deal with it was to take the pan off, take it to a shop and have it re-drilled and put a new bigger bolt in it. As for silicone, damn. doesn't the oil filter CATCH the excess silicone? wtf? doesn't that stuff harden and not dissolve or fall out? explain. I hate to make a mistake. On top of that, I need the bike asap so the siilicone was recommended to me. explain. thanks.

The Buddha

Dude ... buy import babe's pan put a new gasket on it and fit it. Worry about your oil pan later.
BTW helicoil is not the right repair for your problem. You're better off drilling it to take maybe a 1/2 inch pipe thread. Either way, pan has to come off and get tapped, just buy the right item and worry about this later.
She is really going to ship it the instant you send her the $$ ... maybe she should be called instant-babe  O0 ... I paid last night and she said she was going to mail it in a few mins.
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philward

No, instant-babe is totally different.  That comes mail order, wrapped in brown paper...
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sledge

Seems to me that the easiest thing to do is buy a used one from a breakers then fit it with a new OEM gasket, no need to waste time and mess around with helicols and sealant then........or am I just thinking too hard?

The Buddha

Quote from: philward on May 06, 2008, 03:49:07 AM
No, instant-babe is totally different.  That comes mail order, wrapped in brown paper...

Funny, I thought Import-babe also was that same type ...  :laugh:
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ajaxgs

Quote from: The Buddha on May 06, 2008, 05:27:58 AM
Quote from: philward on May 06, 2008, 03:49:07 AM
No, instant-babe is totally different.  That comes mail order, wrapped in brown paper...

Funny, I thought Import-babe also was that same type ...  :laugh:
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ow ! :o
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Kaizer

okay, maybe i am not understood, what i need is a temporary fix, something to get me through to the next oil change. I had a gasket leak a year ago, so the seal is new. can i reuse it instead of buying a new one? plus importbabe has a USED one and not sure if hers fits my model. do all the oil pans fit all the gstwins? for now, I got some thermal tape, had that wrapped around the bolt and a couple of o rings. will that hold or not?

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