I recently had a seized engine on my '04 with only 4500 miles on it.  I had to take it to a local shop because I struck out on everyone's suggestions, and I'm quite a newbee when it comes to motorcyles.

Your problem sounds very similar to the problem I was having. 

My exhaust valve seat broke into a few pieces and one of the pieces lodged my exhaust valve open to where the piston locked up into it. 

What kind of prices/turn around time were you looking at?

I found a local engine for sell on ebay for 300 dollars.  Now I know the rules of ebay say you can't go around ebay, but it might save on shipping!  I have never bought anything this large of ebay, and have no clue what to look for, ask, etc, before laying down another 300 for an engine.

Thanks,

Nick

***Edit***
Engine is from a 2004, a few parts (ignitor is all I could tell of hand, maybe clutch side engine cover) might have been taken from it. Are there going to be any parts that won't transfer from my 1990 onto the 2004?

Quote from: utgunslinger13 on June 10, 2008, 08:47:22 PM
I found a local engine for sell on ebay for 300 dollars.  Now I know the rules of ebay say you can't go around ebay, but it might save on shipping!  I have never bought anything this large of ebay, and have no clue what to look for, ask, etc, before laying down another 300 for an engine.

Thanks,

Nick

Sometimes I see adds that say, " I have this for sale locally and reserve the right to end this auction early." I'd try and set up a meeting to go see it in person.

I emailed him, but his ad didn't mention anything about selling locally.  We will see!  Any input on parts that won't match between a 2004 engine and 1990 engine/bike? Any wiring issues?

Quote from: utgunslinger13 on June 10, 2008, 09:24:11 PM
I emailed him, but his ad didn't mention anything about selling locally.  We will see!  Any input on parts that won't match between a 2004 engine and 1990 engine/bike? Any wiring issues?

You will need to transfer your engine electrics and carbs over to the 04 engine.You'll also need the oil cooler,lines and mounting hardware.Remember the 02+ F models have an oil cooler.Helps the engine last longer.

You guys think the electronic BS they slapped on a 70's motor is what is killing these in large numbers Like the 4 prong advancer that does this and that and julienne fries ...
Cool.
Buddha.

What are you babbling about? 



Are you drinking skunk beer again? 

The 04 and newer gs has a lot of electronic crap ... an advancer that has many prongs that all do some kinda feedback, maybe it turns it too lean and cooks the motors up.
Cool.
Buddha.

So your saying to not go for this motor?  I'm confused?

They're saying the 2004 engine will work, provided you transfer over the electrical insides from the broken engine.

As ben2go also mentioned, the 2004 engine design includes an oil cooler. The oil cooler is not present on your old engine; therefore, you will have to make sure you get the oil cooler, lines, and mounting hardware included with the new engine (otherwise you will have to go through the hassle of locating these parts separately).

On a separate side note, Buddha was hypothesizing that the redesigned electrics for the 2002+ engines may be contributing to the many recent engine failures reported. This is merely a guess and should not deter you from buying the engine. As stated, you need to use your original electrics anyways.

Hope this helps!

Yes it does!  Thank you very much!  The only problem I'm running into is he said no local pickups when I asked if we could meet up and purchase some other parts off the MC.  I'll be upset if he wants to ship the engine when I could drive to his place in 20 minutes!

Quote from: utgunslinger13 on June 11, 2008, 11:19:39 AM
Yes it does!  Thank you very much!  The only problem I'm running into is he said no local pickups when I asked if we could meet up and purchase some other parts off the MC.  I'll be upset if he wants to ship the engine when I could drive to his place in 20 minutes!

Honestly, it sounds like he is hiding something.Why else would he go thru the truoble of shipping something across town.Could be a stolen bike.You could ask him to meet you with the motor and parts you need.

Well, I have recently moved from OH to AZ and I realized that my address on Ebay still showed I was located in OH, so I wonder if that has something to do with it.  The listing shows that he has an "abandoned title" because his roommate left the country, but I have never heard of any such thing.  I just don't understand his thought process if he wont sell it locally so he didn't have to ship it?  I really need an engine but I'm nervous of getting scammed!

Nick

Abandon titles are usually giving after a vehicle has been unregistered and uninsured for over 5 years.Unless you can prove that the owner left the bike without it.Different states have different laws on this.Usually it's just a trip to the DMV to get the info on abandoned vehicles.

I would still be very cautious on this.

I am a little weary, its just almost to good to be true.  I couldn't find any other engines on Ebay, and this one is 20 minutes from my location!  I am going to get back in contact with him and see if we can't work something out.

Have you tried Midcity in Pheonix (623) 931-0844,or Bob's (602) 243-4241?

Liquidation Center deals in salvage bikes. (602) 484-0133

Wow, I must be an idiot because I looked on google and I could only find auto recyclers!  What did you search for or did you already know about these guys?  I am going to call today to see what they have!

Thank you so much!

Nick

The response I got from the seller when I asked him about purchasing it local was the following. Tell me if I'm misunderstanding but this doesn't sound right?!

"I would sell you the entire bike at this point...1300. I honestly don't want you to bid on the motor, shipping things out for me is a tax write off so I would be losing as far as this deal is concerned. The tax benefits for me are very important."

This just doesn't seem right to me?!

Yea Something doesn't seem right there.

The phone numbers I posted I got off Yahoo Yellow Pages.I searched Phoenix,AZ and used these terms,motorcycle parts used,motorcycle used parts,motorcycle salvage,salvage motorcycle.