Anyone else check live updates on this as it was going down??

New iPhone set to release July 11th, the Mac world has been anticipating this though the release date is about 2 weeks past most speculation.

Anyway, the crazy shaZam!.  It will be offered with full GPS and 3G chipset in an 8gb and 16gb size for .................................$200 and $300 respectively

RIM, kiss your market share the f%$k goodbye.  I'll wait in line as long as it takes, probably spend the better part of 24hrs in line.  Various sources report customs tracking of 18.5million 'new' units being shipped in to apple distribution points, so they probably won't run out.  I'm not taking my chances anyway.   If you're into the stock market, about 3 hours ago would have been the time to buy AAPL and sit for 6 weeks.  I can see it topping 225/share.

looks like it dropped today... will prob split soon I guess 

Ive had 20 appl maybe nows the time to jump to 30-40 ?

I would jump as much as possible, but that's just me.  They took a hit this AM because people were nervous about the public perception of the new phone, and the dissappointment of not getting the phone for another month.  Wait until they move the 18.5 million units reported by customs and see what stock looks like.  The stock market is the biggest popularity contest known to man and AAPL is about to be voted Prom King.

what are you guys talking aboot?

Quote from: frankieG on June 10, 2008, 01:52:16 AM
what are you guys talking aboot?

apple introduced a new iphone, it has:

a faster net connection now
a kick ass SDK (software developement kit)
access (microsoft exchange) push access (big big deal for business)
and tons of cultist mac fanboys (myself included)

their stock dipped, but likely will make some very nice gains soon, then dip back again in a few weeks.


the bad:

the cheap price tag of $200 is ONLY with a contract, so far there is no mention of a NON-contract price, but it's expected to be around $475-$525.

it's a good device, but it's still lacking things that others have.

I won't buy one until the 4th gen hits craigslist used like everything i buy

hate to nuke your bubble, but 200-300 are OTD prices without the contract. Just spoke to my step brother who manages an apple store to confirm.

Quote from: spcterry on June 11, 2008, 09:32:08 AM
hate to nuke your bubble, but 200-300 are OTD prices without the contract. Just spoke to my step brother who manages an apple store to confirm.

Um nope - you wont be able to purchase the iphone online, ONLY in an AT&T or Apple store, and the phone must be activated and contract signed BEFORE you leave the store.

disbursement with this generation phone is going to be the same as the last. Apple stores are not properly equipped for the process of opening new att accounts. Your information is wrong. Jobs very clearly stated that the maximum price at which the 3G will be sold is 199 & 299. The reason it will not be initially available online is in recognition of the fact that there would be inevitable server failures in the first 5-10 minutes of sake and thus angry customers. The folks at 1800myapple can give you any information you need to know including verifying whether a specific store will recieve July 11 disbursment shipments.

Do they have a sim card? would you be able to use an old sim and not have to pay for all the extra crap? I would like to have one but I dont want/need all the internet crap 

they are sim card based, but they come with one in them and you would need to use the new one. I see no reason you wouldn't be able to cancel the Internet servicebut be careful to not use data at all if you do. If my plan wasn't unlimited data it would be a massive bill, I use between one and two GBs a month of data.

My trusty little Treo 750 does just fine....all it needs is integrated wifi so I can use the mini sd slot for more storage.  The iphone didn't really impress me.  I played with one in an att store and I just didn't like it.  But then again, I'm not one to rush out and buy the newest thing like the droves of others.  Let them deal with the bugs until they get it right like kyle said.....buy one used in a few years.  But, hell, in a few years, there will be much more advanced gadgets on the market.

What's the big deal about a damned telephone?   

My information is wrong?  It was in a press release from apple bro.   

Ill quote it for you. 

Quote from: spcterry on June 11, 2008, 11:49:45 AM
disbursement with this generation phone is going to be the same as the last. Apple stores are not properly equipped for the process of opening new att accounts. Your information is wrong. Jobs very clearly stated that the maximum price at which the 3G will be sold is 199 & 299. The reason it will not be initially available online is in recognition of the fact that there would be inevitable server failures in the first 5-10 minutes of sake and thus angry customers. The folks at 1800myapple can give you any information you need to know including verifying whether a specific store will recieve July 11 disbursment shipments.

Sorry man - wrong.  Read bold below.

Source
http://gizmodo.com/5014909/att-memo-to-retail-managers-shows-iphone-3g-policy

QuoteWe knew it wouldn't be long before someone from AT&T leaked a policy memo vis-a-vis the iPhone 3G's July 11 launch. As well as all the mobile provider's pricing details from yesterday, the document contains a bit more info, such as how many iPhones each customer can walk out with (that'll be three, then, so if anyone at Gawker HQ is feeling generous, only Frooch, Matt Buchanan and I are still sans jesusPhone), and what to do with all existing 2G phone promotional literature.

***Confidential AT&T Information. For Internal Distribution Only.***
AT&T and Apple today announced that the iPhone 3G will be available in the U.S on July 11. iPhone 3G combines three products into one small, lightweight device: a revolutionary mobile phone, a widescreen iPod, and it puts the Internet in your pocket with the best e-mail, web browsing, search and maps applications ever on a mobile phone.

The new version of the iPhone harnesses the power of AT&T's broad and powerful 3G mobile broadband network, which offers 3G mobile phones download speeds of up to 1.4 Mbps.

Key Device Features:

Operates on Wi-Fi, EDGE, and 3G networks
New enterprise e-mail capability with support for Microsoft Exchange ActiveSync
New iPhone software development kit (SDK) to support new innovative applications
Note: 2G iPhone customers will be able to download the iPhone 2.0 software from iTunes which enables new features such as access to corporate e-mail via Microsoft ActiveSync.

New Activation Process and BRE:
The iPhone 3G will be activated at point of sale when the device is purchased, in store. The BRE period will change from 14 days to 30 days and will require the device to be returned to place of purchase before service is cancelled.

Pricing and Plans
Device Pricing:
$199 8GB and $299 16GB for new activations and qualified upgrades with 2-year agreement.

Data Plans and Pricing:
The iPhone 3G will be activated on existing AT&T voice rate plans, but new data plans have been created for the 3G device.

All iPhone 3G customers are required to have one of the new data plans and qualifying voice plan.
Customers intending to use the iPhone 3G for access to corporate e-mail, business applications, or access to corporate intranet are required to activate with Enterprise Data Plan for iPhone.
The 2G data rate plans will remain available for 2G devices until further notice.
IRU service discounts for both voice and data pans will apply to iPhone 3G, but not 2G iPhone.
CRU service discounts for voice and data will apply to both 2G and 3G, when on a qualifying data plan.
IRUs will not get a discount on device purchase for 2G or iPhone 3Gs.
Data Pricing will be as follows:
Consumer Data Plan (must be added to qualified voice plan):
$30 - Unlimited Data (E-mail/Web), includes Visual Voicemail

Enterprise Data Plan (must be added to qualified voice plan):
$45 – Unlimited Data with personal and corporate e-mail, web, includes Visual Voicemail

Upgrade Eligibility and Qualified Upgrade Pricing
Upgrade eligibility will be determined based on standard upgrade eligibility rules. Customers must be upgrade eligible to receive the qualified upgrade pricing. However, not all customers will be qualified upgrades. AT&T has not determined the price of the 3G device for non-qualified upgrades.

All customers will be required to sign a 2-year agreement. There will not be a "no commitment" price for the iPhone 3G.

Note: When the 3G device launches, all active postpaid customers in good standing with a 2G iPhone will be eligible to receive the qualified upgrade pricing for a 3G device regardless of service tenure. (Customers that would not otherwise be eligible due to tenure will be made eligible at launch).

Activation Process
The new 3G device will be activated in store in both AT&T and Apple stores. Customers must accept AT&T and Apple Ts & Cs, sign a 2-year agreement, and select the data plan for the iPhone 3G before leaving the store. The current iTunes activation process will no longer be required for iPhone 3Gs, however a short tether process to unbrick the 3G device will be performed in all AT&T stores (tether cords will be provided). Apple stores will also perform this tether process, however in the event that a customer's device is not tethered in the Apple store, their device will be inoperable until they get home and tether through iTunes. Prepaid and Pick Your Plan will not be allowed on the 3G device.

The SSK has been modified to allow customers interested in the iPhone 3G to enter their information, select rate plans and data plans, and print a document that will allow COR reps to quickly access the customer's information in OPUS and save time for data entry in the activation process.

Note: In the interim, 2G iPhones will continue to be activated via iTunes - BAU. This is also true for existing AT&T customers who receive a 2G device as a gift, hand-me-down, etc. and wish to activate the device. Existing AT&T customers who switch to the 2G iPhone must tether through the iTunes process to begin using the device.

Compensation
Because the 3G device will be activated in store, compensation for the 3G device will be BAU. COR reps will receive compensation for upgrades and new activations with a 2-year agreement.

Purchase Limit
The device purchase limit will remain three (3) per customer for iPhone 3G in AT&T stores.

Allocations
If allocations are required at launch, supply chain will allocate based on January-April sales rates applied on a store-by-store basis.

Direct Fulfillment
The DF tool will be available at launch in COR for iPhone 3Gs. Customers will be required to pay for the device when the order is placed and the phone will be shipped to the store in the customer's name.

Existing Stock of 2G Devices
We will continue to sell 2G devices until stock is depleted.

Return Policy
2G Devices
Customers who recently purchased a 2G iPhone may want to return their device once they hear about the 3G model and price point, but the new device will not be available immediately. Since the announcement and launch will be about 30 days apart, we could lose some customers who are within their BRE period and want to return their device before their 14 days expires and wait for the new 3G device. We must acknowledge and address their desire to get the best device for them.

Here's how AT&T will handle 2G iPhone returns:

If a customer purchased before 5/27, we will follow BAU processes – no device returns. However, all postpaid 2G iPhone customers in good standing are upgrade eligible, so these customers will qualify to upgrade to a 3G iPhone when it is available.
If a customer purchased on or after 5/27 (within the 14-day BRE period before the product announcement on 6/9), we will let them exchange their 2G iPhone for an iPhone 3G before August 1. This means that after we launch the 3G model they can return their 2G iPhone, pay the 10% restocking fee, and purchase a new iPhone 3G before August 1.
Note: This modified return policy applies only to customers who purchase from AT&T stores.

3G Devices
The return policy for 3G is changing from 14 days to 30 days for both Apple and AT&T stores.

To cancel service within the first 30 days, the customer must return their equipment to the place of purchase (no exceptions).
If the customer cancels service after 30 days, they will be charged the ETF. The customer is not required to return the device to cancel after 30 days.
Special Notes Regarding 2G Devices

After the iPhone 3G launches, activations of 2G iPhones for new AT&T customers can be performed in COR stores or in the existing iTunes tether process. COR reps will receive compensation for activations of new AT&T customers done in store.
2G upgrades will continue to be activated via the existing iTunes tether process.
Existing 2G data plans will remain available for 2G devices until further notice.
Note: 2G iPhones are out of stock in the DCs, and the Direct Fulfillment tool for 2G is turned off. 2G iPhones have been removed from the "myRewards" incentive catalog.

Merchandising/Marketing

Current 2G iPhones should remain on device fixtures in store. Do not remove 2G demo devices until further notice.
3G demos will be pulled from stock when they arrive following BAU process for display devices.
Video loop content will be pushed to stores when it is available.
New docks and retrofit kits will be provided for existing iPhone fixtures.
The following merchandising elements will be in stores for launch:

Rate brochure and display rate card
22 x 28 poster
Window banner
Duratrans - will be available for markets to order
Coming Soon: Posters and banners are TBD
Training

Device training, including features and functionality, will be available via My CSP by 6/13.
OPUS training will begin no later than 6/20 and will be delivered via the Learning Edge.
Launch preparedness training, including last minute details, will be conducted the week of launch (if needed) via RSM or Centra sessions.
Communications/My CSP
All iPhone-related communications, inclusive of training announcements, will be posted to My CSP. Login and access are via the "Everything iPhone 3G" ad space. Or search on either keyword "iZone" or keyword "iPhone 3G" to locate.

Launch Plans
Support logistics for launch day will mirror last year's iPhone launch:

Letters will be sent to all landlords under VP/GM signature for advance notice of store hours, crowds expected, possible parking issues, etc.
Security will be provided for locations requesting armed police or unarmed, uniformed guards.
Manager checklists will be provided to support RSMs to set expectations and help them be prepared to complete all required actions.
Documents will be posted on iZone to let RSMs know when to expect delivery of launch support materials.
Job descriptions for key launch day functions will be provided for: Back Office Manager/Inventory Runner, Crowd Manager, Greeter, Product Demonstrator, and Security Support.

***Confidential AT&T Information. For Internal Distribution Only.***

Gizmodo is freaking crap, if it's not on Apple.com, don't believe it.  We'll see when it comes out, less than a month to go.  The only point I care about is that I'm a pre-existing ATT customer and Jobs promised a maximum price that is very appealing.  I would have bought the phone at the 699 rumored for the 16gb, at 299 I'm very happy.

DId you read the source man?  It was an internal Apple memo that was for confidential internal circulation to Execs, that got leaked.