perfect, thanks!  I will call them on my lunch in an hour.

You're welcome.Hope they have an engine.

One didn't answer, so I left a message.
One wasn't sure if they did, I would have to come in and look.
One didn't deal with parts!

Stricking out :-(

So I finally got the engine out of the bike. That wasn't the easiest thing to do by myself, especially in my "garage" area!

My "Garage"


My parts storage area:


My naked bike!


The engine!


Hopefully I can start digging into it this weekend to see if I can find what might have locked it up.  I've started a WTB thread, so if anyone is reading this and knows of an engine in the Phoenix AZ area please let me know!  And if you have any suggestions on tearing this down, I'm all ears!

Thanks!

Nick

Thanks for the follow up and the pictures!

Here's to good news when you crack it open 

I'm hoping for something simple so you can go riding.

I did notice one thing that was broken while taking the motor out, but I think this might be an after effect of the seizure.  When I un hooked the speedo cable, a small piece fell out that I think is the tip that should be hooked into the wire.  I know thats a horrible description but my camera batteries died while I was taking the pics and I didn't feel like waiting for it to charge before I went to bed.  Removing an engine by yourself is tiring work!

If someone has a picture of the speedo cable where it hooks into the engine they could post I would appreciate it.

Quote from: utgunslinger13 on June 13, 2008, 07:58:44 AM
I did notice one thing that was broken while taking the motor out, but I think this might be an after effect of the seizure.  When I un hooked the speedo cable, a small piece fell out that I think is the tip that should be hooked into the wire.  I know thats a horrible description but my camera batteries died while I was taking the pics and I didn't feel like waiting for it to charge before I went to bed.  Removing an engine by yourself is tiring work!

If someone has a picture of the speedo cable where it hooks into the engine they could post I would appreciate it.

Speedo is connected to the front wheel.The tach cable is hooked up to the top of the head on the right side.If some thing breaks in there it could possibly lock up the tach drive on the cam.That would keep the engine from turning.It's rare for something to fail in that area.

okay, well the piece that broke is between the part that screws into the engine and the cable.  I think it used to be the tip of the internal part that spins inside the cable portion.  I'll take a pic and send it later tonight.

It could be the tip of the wire cable.

That would be an accurate description if I were to guess.  It is a "male" portion that sticks out of the end of the cable.

Quote from: utgunslinger13 on June 13, 2008, 04:18:44 PM
That would be an accurate description if I were to guess.  It is a "male" portion that sticks out of the end of the cable.

Have you tried turning the engine since removing it.

yeah I tried to turn it over again and it won't budge an inch.  I planned on getting into it tonight but my gf and I went out to dinner and i had a couple to many (hahah yeah right) beers so I'll probably wait till tomorrow to tear it down.  Although, here is a picture of the broken piece from the tach.

Quote from: utgunslinger13 on June 10, 2008, 09:38:44 AM
My worry is the fact that other than oil pan and valve cover gaskets, or tapping an oil pan on my civic for turbo drain lines, I have never done internal work. Let alone been inside a suzuki engine.  What would I be looking at (parts availability, tech knowledgable) if I outsourced the engine rebuild? Prices? Suggestions in greater Phoenix area?

Thanks,

Nick

take it up to MMI on deer valley rd. ( mmi= motorcycle mechanics institute) take 17 north, get off at deer valley, turn left, they may be able to do it, as a training excercise for students, ie teacher do, students watch. opr teh same with teh engine swap

I drive by MMI on my way to and from work every day!  I wasn't sure if they would take things like that or if I should trust it to being rebuilt there.

Quote from: utgunslinger13 on June 13, 2008, 09:36:19 PM
I drive by MMI on my way to and from work every day!  I wasn't sure if they would take things like that or if I should trust it to being rebuilt there.

Yea! I didn't realize you guys had an MMI.They will usually take in small projects.They may need the complete bike so they can run the engine after the build.Never hurts to stop and ask.

Quote from: ben2go on June 13, 2008, 10:52:55 PM

Quote from: utgunslinger13 on June 13, 2008, 09:36:19 PM
I drive by MMI on my way to and from work every day!  I wasn't sure if they would take things like that or if I should trust it to being rebuilt there.

Yea! I didn't realize you guys had an MMI.They will usually take in small projects.They may need the complete bike so they can run the engine after the build.Never hurts to stop and ask.

former student AND grad here  , i lived at that apt complex across the street from them

I see guys/gals walking accross the street from that complex in their uniforms every morning!  How likely would they be to take on the project?  Would it cost me anything?  How would I go about it?

Also, I'm stuck as to how to get the right side cover off?  I have removed everything and the damn cover won't budge?!  Is there some trick?

Quote from: utgunslinger13 on June 14, 2008, 09:44:09 AM
I see guys/gals walking accross the street from that complex in their uniforms every morning!  How likely would they be to take on the project?  Would it cost me anything?  How would I go about it?

Also, I'm stuck as to how to get the right side cover off?  I have removed everything and the damn cover won't budge?!  Is there some trick?

Don't pry the case at the seam,it will mess up the sealing surface.There are 2 tabs that stick off the cover.1 can be seen in the pic.It's at the back of the cover just below center.The other one should be at the front.I place a screw driver on the tabs and gently tap the screw driver with a hammer.When You feel it loosening up be prepared to catch it.Here's a tip for reassembly.After you scrape the old gasket from the cover,clean it very well,wipe it completely dry.The use a little bearing grease and coat the inside of the seal where the crankshaft seals.This will keep the dry seal from sticking to the crankshaft snout and getting damaged on start up.

Thank you!  I figured it was something as simple as that and I wondered what those tabs were for!  Got it off and clutch looks good, so I slid out the plates and dropped it into gear.  After I dropped it into gear I rotated the inside portion of the clutch seen here:



and it in turn rotated the output shaft where the sproket should go, seen here:




So I'm thinking this eliminates something in the transmission being stuck and points towards the engine itself.  Any input or thoughts?

i'm a little unsure how to move forward from here as I'm to impatient to wait for my manual to arrive in the mail to start tearing the engine apart.  What is the best way to start looking into the engine?

Thanks!
Nick