Quote from: scottpA_GS on June 12, 2008, 09:44:14 AM

Quote from: Jay_wolf on June 12, 2008, 09:40:31 AM
Still another Death .. After looking at ride or Die , it made me realllly think , that the days its hot and i go out in a T shirt could be terrable , i could loose my tattoo etc

I have been thinking that every day this week its been 90F+ and damn my black armored jacket is HOT! but I ride w/ it every time.  And I "rccomend" others do the same  But I wont tell you that youll die if you dont   

we never, or i never said she would DIE, just breaking it down, that a bike of that calibre, has very little room for error, myself i know people who have bought 1k's as tehir first bikes. most of which have had no problems, one has wreclked, ( in the parking lot) and one is buried not a mile and  a half from my home. it is their child per se, id say if youre going to talk to them jsut let them know that that machine has almost no room for error, ( although a liter duc is worse lol, as far as room for error) , who knows maybe she is/can be an excelletn rider. who knows, would i sell a gix like that to a young/inexperienced person, sure. however i would talk with them to make sure they knew what they were buying

People don't like being told they are wrong for decisions they make. Find a good non-offensive way to approach it and express YOUR opinions... yeah, we are free to do that and it's your duty as a friend.

Posted this on another thread ... Honda has a promo on CBR125R for $3500... Full Gear and 3yr Warranty with roadside.

http://www.honda.ca/Go/En/index.html

Ive had one of those, when i was a little younger , Couldnt Pull the skin off a rice pudding

Quote from: Jay_wolf on June 13, 2008, 07:12:24 AM
Ive had one of those, when i was a little younger , Couldnt Pull the skin off a rice pudding

Yeah, I couldn't imagine that on the street. My old 100 dirtbike felt like it would only do 35.

ok, couldn't resist...

generally I'm a mind your own business kind of guy... and I don't agree that liter bike for first bike = death. maybe she's got talent.

but I also like Hunter S. Thompson. so this is a repost. this article has made it's way around every motorcycle forum ever made and I'm surprised no one pulled it out yet.

http://proitalia.com/reviews/hst.html

ask her and her folks to read this article and try to keep some perspective she's probably not going to ride like Mr. Thompson did because he was a little crazy.

Advocate for all the gear all the time. thats pretty much all you can and should do. and yeah, 1000cc's is pretty big. I wouldn't ride that bike on the street. I like my skin. so I can see where you're coming from but seriously, time to mind your P's and Q's as my mom used to say.


we all take a life endangering chance any time we swing the leg over. doesn't matter the size of the bike. ride what you want and ride it fast but safe. thats what I say.

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I suspect that 99% of the time, a GSXR1000 is a bad idea for a starter bike. If you fall in that 1%, good for you.  It is probably a bad idea unless you want to do a lot of throttle wheelies and are immune to ticket/insurance issues.

A 250 can be a fairly powerful dirt bike by the way, more like a 750 equivalent in street bike terms. 100cc is a starter bike. 125cc motocross (racing dirt bikes) are pretty fast, capable of powering through turns, jumping 40 feet, popping wheelies at will, etc. 250's are powerful enough that beginner riders have issues looping them (360 degree wheelie), and 500's are just weird bikes for extremists.

I don't believe that dirt riding teaches you how to drive with others. Big part of street driving/riding. Can she drive a car? Well? Ie, no tickets, no accidents.

I called her father's cell phone and left a message on his voice mail asking him to call me back, I didn't say why. Although I did tell my friend that I was going to try and talk him out of buying this for her. She wasn't pleased and we fell into the same argument we first had when she announced the news to me. We decided that bickering among one another wouldn't change anything as she was confident her father would still go ahead with the purchase once it arrived. We'll see.

i still think this is not your business and should just stay out of it....but i guess you are not so i wish you luck.

I agree with Frankie, old saying in the south...mind your own. 
If you really want to help her talk to her about a MSF course, offer riding tips, books on proper cycle technics, ride with her. Let the family decide whats best and just be a friend.

Just Trying to stop a mistake , if hes got the money for her to have a gsxr, why not even a 600? u no , i wouldnt go from a 250cc to a 1000 and im a good rider

who knows jay, but i wish her the best 

There's a fine line between "interference" and "intervention".  Speaking out might seem like Interference but it might save the girl's skin from being left "intermacadam".

Safest to intervene if there's any doubt, but don't be a typical 'do it my way or hit the highway' American about it.

(can't avoid reminding everyone that road-tar was invented by a Scot!)

Quote from: Jay_wolf on June 13, 2008, 09:17:52 PM
Just Trying to stop a mistake , if hes got the money for her to have a gsxr, why not even a 600? u no , i wouldnt go from a 250cc to a 1000 and im a good rider

Who are you to decide if her getting a 1000 is a mistake...  stay out of it.  The ONLY thing you can do as a REAL friend is to talk to her about MSF courses and proper riding techniques.


If you stick your nose in the way you want to, you're not being a real good friend...  you're trying to run her life...

If you want to be a real good friend, help her stay safe no matter what decision she or her family makes.

Help her stay safe by saying , yea Anns Right he knows if you can handle that Powerful racing Bike , even tho he knows nothing about you or how u drive , A MSF is going to keep some one safe.. because they no how to do a circle at low speed, dont worry about the fact it can accelerate Faster than 99% of all cars on the road . maybe driving lessions should be done in Dodge Vipers and Enzos.. because that would be safe ,

If one of my Friends Said there dads getting them a Gsxr ,. i would get them to ride on my bike , watch them Freak , and tell them they dont  want it

ok....  so my R6 can out accelerate 99% of the cars on the road too.  What makes the R6 'safer' than that gsxr1000?

and the main point that I think you're missing is this:

It's not WHAT you ride...  it's HOW you ride...
people can get killed on a 250
people can live a long happy life on a 1300

it DOESN'T matter the vehicle...  it's how you command it.

I wouldnt Suggest a R6 either to be fair , im going to get a Streetfightered one , and i no they were the first 600cc to make over 100 bhp .. think it they make well over

I suggest to them to get her a GS500F, then after she gets good practice riding it and feel for road, get her the GSXR. 2 bikes instead of 1, so she cant be mad either. She's safer, so parents are happy. maybe she's not going to like it, then she can give up with the GS instead of GSXR.
Cool.
Buddha.

Your first street bike ought to be easy to ride in the street. Does anyone even believe that a GSXR1000 is that bike?

103mph in 1st gear 

http://www.gixxer.com/forums/showthread.php?s=2d2207015676d35a03d83ef021187a5c&t=173856

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTKZ4Gn9MiI

Now, can you tell me why dad is not getting her a Busa?

What is nice about people that buy GSXR1000's is that a lot of them are sold by people who bought them and got scared of riding them. I look forward to making one of them (maybe this one?) my 6th or 7th bike.....lol