well if its bound to happen, let her ride yours, let her know what teh 1k is capable of, then go wiht her to shop for gear, from teh helmet on down ot the boots, and wish her luck, the MSF would help, yes an for slow speed stuff, but also to teach how to get out of a tricky situation

I was going to read this whole thread when I clicked in but the first few posts pissed me off.  I'm not so much as to think you're being a bunch of pussies...but I do think you're all crossing way over the line by trying to get the bike taken away from her.  shaZam! have you even thought to talk to her about it?

Further, getting a liter bike doesn't mean "instant death".  I spent some time on a tweaked out CBR1000 with next to no experience on a bike and managed to do ok.  And a bike's ability has absolutely nothing to do with what it will actually do.  TL's are known for being wheelie machines...in three years I had the front wheel of my TLS in the air ONCE.  It was also capable of tunnel-vision inducing speeds...never went there.

And I'll have you all know that I've spent time on race bikes and street bikes and dirt bikes...all far more powerful than they needed to be...and the only bike I hurt myself on was a Ninja 250.

Grow up and be a man...I think you're jealous because a girl has a meaner bike than you.

Im very much leaning on Maks side here.

Yes her parents should probably have a little more restraint and spend a bit longer thinking about it and said actually she doesn't need a 1000 it is abit dangerous due to so easily getting yourself into an accident and should probably have chosen a 600 or something.

However, this is not your decision to make, showing her rotten videos of bike accidents (if i were her) would make me punch your lights out. I don't want to see that shaZam!, you don't need to see that shaZam!. When you get on a bike you should feel how exposed they are and thats a deterrent. Plus its scare mongering. I could show you pictures of when a plane at the airport had a wing fold on it during a display and plumited into the ground infront of the tower window. Would that do you any good in the world? no you would think i was a sick bastard and tell me your not going to fly again. Now your missing out on holidays in the sun all the time.

Those videos could happen to anyone on any bike, it could happen on a frickin push bike! You will scare her away from everything.

What you SHOULD do. Is go out with her. Show you care by being there the first day shes going to ride it, try and encourage her to go with you on her first ride, tell her parents that you will take her out first time and that will show you care. You take the lead, you set the pace and you take it slow, and build it up. If shes out with you shes not going to blast off into the distance she will ride with you and if shes doing that you can introduce her to her own bike at a slower pace. Plus your there if anything does happen which is what you need to be in this situation.

And im pretty damn sure that as mak said you have some feelings of jealousy that shes got such a large bike - that you would maybe hope to get one day. Many things in life people jump in at the deep end, and if someones there to help them it will force them to learn quicker and not neccessarily be any more dangerous after the first jump in the pool.

Please don't go and scare her, you will either lose your friend or put her off bikes for life and thats not what you want.

What does jealousy or the fact that 1 out of 100 GSXR1000 starter bike owners may have had no problems have to do with whether it is the right bike for a 1st street bike? The exception does not prove the rule. A TL (125hp) or an R6 (104hp) is nowhere near the same league as a 2008 GXSR1000 (185hp). R6 has slightly more than HALF the horsepower. The GSXR1000 is made for people who think their GSXR750 is too slow.

Jealousy has much more to do with the whole thing than your made up statistics.

Quote from: makenzie71 on June 15, 2008, 06:36:29 AM
Jealousy has much more to do with the whole thing than your made up statistics.

+1

Thank you Mak, Kasumi, and the FEW others that see it like it is...  I was begining to think that I was the only one that thought that way.

Quote from: wreckhog on June 15, 2008, 06:13:02 AM
What does jealousy or the fact that 1 out of 100 GSXR1000 starter bike owners may have had no problems have to do with whether it is the right bike for a 1st street bike? The exception does not prove the rule. A TL (125hp) or an R6 (104hp) is nowhere near the same league as a 2008 GXSR1000 (185hp). R6 has slightly more than HALF the horsepower. The GSXR1000 is made for people who think their GSXR750 is too slow.

Damn I gotta get a 1K now?!? JK  

Everybody keeps on talking about accidents on a sportbike. Except for racing vid's the most accidents I see are people doing stunts on them.  Except for that SV guy that hit the tree. . . . he should never be allowed on a bike again.   The reason I mentioned the MSF course was not so she can learn to do a figure 8 in a box but to learn about situational awareness learning about watching other drivers, auto's and the other safety stuff they teach you. 

I really do belive safty if more about the rider than the ride.

Quote from: wreckhog on June 14, 2008, 06:23:08 PM
What is nice about people that buy GSXR1000's is that a lot of them are sold by people who bought them and got scared of riding them. I look forward to making one of them (maybe this one?) my 6th or 7th bike.....lol

This alone is reason enough to let her buy it. If she cant ride it (like you think she cant) then you can buy it cheap 

Quote from: blue05twin on June 15, 2008, 08:49:39 AM

Quote from: wreckhog on June 15, 2008, 06:13:02 AM
What does jealousy or the fact that 1 out of 100 GSXR1000 starter bike owners may have had no problems have to do with whether it is the right bike for a 1st street bike? The exception does not prove the rule. A TL (125hp) or an R6 (104hp) is nowhere near the same league as a 2008 GXSR1000 (185hp). R6 has slightly more than HALF the horsepower. The GSXR1000 is made for people who think their GSXR750 is too slow.

Damn I gotta get a 1K now?!? JK  

Everybody keeps on talking about accidents on a sportbike. Except for racing vid's the most accidents I see are people doing stunts on them.  Except for that SV guy that hit the tree. . . . he should never be allowed on a bike again.   The reason I mentioned the MSF course was not so she can learn to do a figure 8 in a box but to learn about situational awareness learning about watching other drivers, auto's and the other safety stuff they teach you. 

I really do belive safty if more about the rider than the ride.

Price out liability only for an 08 GS500F vs an 08 GSXR1000. Same rider, different ride. Ought to be the same right? Given that you are insuring the other guy in the accident, not your bike. Insurance companies aren't conspiring. They base rates on what their payouts are for similar vehicles/riders/usage historically.

Price out liability only for an 08 GS500F vs an 08 GSXR1000. Same rider, different ride. Ought to be the same right? Given that you are insuring the other guy in the accident, not your bike. Insurance companies aren't conspiring. They base rates on what their payouts are for similar vehicles/riders/usage historically.
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are you serious ? even just liability should be a good difference between those two bikes.

it's like the difference between a corolla and a twin-turbo supra. sure, both are toyotas, but very different and they usually attract very different people.

maybe its NOT jealousy, but perhaps, who knows, overblown caring/worry?, that aside, i owuld suggest teh MSF/ and gear, and a group ride, as was stated. id say shell prolly do fine. as long as she respects the machine that she is on

Quote from: wreckhog on June 15, 2008, 09:07:35 AM

Quote from: blue05twin on June 15, 2008, 08:49:39 AM

Quote from: wreckhog on June 15, 2008, 06:13:02 AM
What does jealousy or the fact that 1 out of 100 GSXR1000 starter bike owners may have had no problems have to do with whether it is the right bike for a 1st street bike? The exception does not prove the rule. A TL (125hp) or an R6 (104hp) is nowhere near the same league as a 2008 GXSR1000 (185hp). R6 has slightly more than HALF the horsepower. The GSXR1000 is made for people who think their GSXR750 is too slow.

Damn I gotta get a 1K now?!? JK  

Everybody keeps on talking about accidents on a sportbike. Except for racing vid's the most accidents I see are people doing stunts on them.  Except for that SV guy that hit the tree. . . . he should never be allowed on a bike again.   The reason I mentioned the MSF course was not so she can learn to do a figure 8 in a box but to learn about situational awareness learning about watching other drivers, auto's and the other safety stuff they teach you. 

I really do belive safty if more about the rider than the ride.

Price out liability only for an 08 GS500F vs an 08 GSXR1000. Same rider, different ride. Ought to be the same right? Given that you are insuring the other guy in the accident, not your bike. Insurance companies aren't conspiring. They base rates on what their payouts are for similar vehicles/riders/usage historically.

Sorry for the Thread Jack

You gotta me kidding me?!? I don't think I even mentioned insurance.  I was talking about the most accidents  I have ever seen besides racing ( and I'm talking about Moto GP and other sanctioned races NOT street racing ) were with sportbikes and people doing stunts on them.

I have state farm insurance, when I had my 05 GS500F I was paying right at $200 for 6 months full coverage, when I got my 06 GSXR750 the insurance for that bike was $250 for full coverage for 6 months.  Now it's just $200 for full coverage for my 750 and $250 for my ex wife's 600.  ( We are divorced but still live together yeah wierd but anyhoo).

Insurance rates are based on a number of different things most important is how the insurance company classfies a bike.  Here's a list of a few of the things that they look for.  What bikes are most stollen.  What bikes are most involed in an accident.  How many cc's is your bike.  SOME not all insurace companys even classify by type of bike.  And your credit rating. 

When I asked my agent why my 750 was less than my ex's 600 it was because 600's are the one's listed as most stollen and envoled in more accidents then the 750 was.  So even tho I have more cc's I have a lower insurance rate.  And $50 buckes difference between 05 GS 500F and 06 GSXR 750 is not all that bad.

End of Thread Jack.

What you are talking about is full coverage. Liability covers the other guy in an accident of which you are at least partially responsible. An 08 GS500 would run me $200/year. 08 GSXR1000 would run me about $600. That is minimum liability and uninsured/uninsured, which is required for motorcycles in my state. No comp or collisiion. Ie theft, or any damage to my bike is not covered. Same rider, same coverage, ought to be the same cost if the chances of me hitting something were the same.

gear, msf, and on the group ride, let her lead for a bit, then you can stare and her hind end for 20 miles. anyhoo. i guess, more i think about it, msf, and decent gear would be good, ( if she doesnt have any of teh aforementioned)

Why would any be jelous of someone having a Gsxr 1000? I love my gs , if i didnt id get a damn GSXR 1000 ,

Im getting  a  Truimph Daytona 675 , and my girlfriends got a 2007 Evo 8 ,. im not jelous

i dont want to here some poor girl has died

neither would i m8, BUT most here say its not the OP's choice. which truthfull it isnt. jsut gotta figure out a way ( with tact), or as some say do nothing. eithr way someone will be angry/hurt

I worry bout My Princess in her Evo , and thats got 4 wheels! , going from a 1.6 Fiesta Zetec *90 bhp maybe * to a 350 bhp Evo Turbo .. Even that scares me a little

Wow, controversy

I don't agree with trying to talk her out of buying a bike of this caliber, but I don't see any harm in making sure that everybody knows what to expect from this bike. It never hurts to make sure that people are educated and knowledgable about what they are getting themselves into.

Completely agree with Safety Course and appropriate gear.