I just wanted to give this an update so it doesn't fall off into oblivion in past posts!  I am waiting on the new cylinders to get here I bought from eBay, and the new rings, circlips, and wrist pins I got from bikebandit.com.  Looks like I should have everything by the end of next week and can get it down to the machinist no later than the 28th.

In the meantime, I hate being idle so I taped off some of the engine and started sanding and preping to get it ready for paint.  I started a new thread so as not to thread jack my own thread!  Feel free to post any comments!

Thanks,

Nick

I also just picked up the following!

Buell  X1 Seat



Buell X1 Subframe



Payment should clear by Wednesday (stupid paypal) and I should have them shortly after I get the engine work completed!  We will be moving to a new apartment in our complex August 8th because they finally had one available with an attached garage so I'll also soon have a better work station!

Nick

Like the seat, love the sub-frame!  How much did it run you?  Is this going to be a easy mod?

Theres been two Gs's down so far with it

Jim Knolf's And Gstwizzle

Looks good yea

$220 total after shipping for both.  Should have been a little cheaper but I got snaked with 4 seconds left on another subframe I was bidding on that would have dropped shipping since it was from the same seller as the seat.  I guess thats what I get for bidding with 2 minutes left and not 20 seconds like I normally do!

It doesn't seem to be a direct bolt in, some customization will be involved, but it doesn't seem like an impossible challenge.  I think it will be easier because it can bolt to the altered subframe you will have to make, which just means one less weld!  Thats the only part I'm nervous about as I've only welded exhaust parts before and that was just fitting test pipes in where the cat used to be for our race cars.  I've been thinking I might try to find someone locally with welding skills willing to work on a saturday for a case of beer and help with the tail swap?

I've got about 2 weeks before I get to that section at the earliest so I've got some time to make any decisions!

Thanks,

Nick

Quote from: utgunslinger13 on June 22, 2008, 09:09:06 AM
$220 total after shipping for both.  Should have been a little cheaper but I got snaked with 4 seconds left on another subframe I was bidding on that would have dropped shipping since it was from the same seller as the seat.  I guess thats what I get for bidding with 2 minutes left and not 20 seconds like I normally do!

It doesn't seem to be a direct bolt in, some customization will be involved, but it doesn't seem like an impossible challenge.  I think it will be easier because it can bolt to the altered subframe you will have to make, which just means one less weld!  Thats the only part I'm nervous about as I've only welded exhaust parts before and that was just fitting test pipes in where the cat used to be for our race cars.  I've been thinking I might try to find someone locally with welding skills willing to work on a saturday for a case of beer and help with the tail swap?

I've got about 2 weeks before I get to that section at the earliest so I've got some time to make any decisions!

Thanks,

Nick

Were you located? If you have any questions that you think I may be able to answer, fire away. Not exactly the mods you'll need to make, but same under taking.

I'm in Phoenix AZ, actually Glendale but thats a suburb of Phoenix.  I think mine will be a little easier because I'm matching the subframe with the GS frame so I won't have as much custom building, but I still would like to have another set of experienced eyes and hands beside me while I work.

Well Im far from experienced and located in Massachusetts so all I can over is through this site.

Just Measure Measure Measure everything correctly, when working on something think it through, all the way through. If you have to move one thing, it may force the move of another and another creating a constant battle of compromises, think things through, ask others opinions and Measures Measure Measure everything correctly.

that would be one talented hand if you could help from MA!  My main concern is going to be my lack of welding experience.  I can weld, just not very well.

So i got some parts in the mail but unfortunately none that could help advance this build yet.

New Tach Cable, New Gasket Set, New Rings, New Circlips, New Wrist Pins:


Still waiting on the top triple which payment cleared on Friday, Cylinders which payment cleared today, and the Buell X1 seat and subframe which the payment is supposed to clear tomorrow.  In the meantime I've been painting the engine, which can be see in my other thread.

http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=42338.0

You opinions are welcomed!

Thank you!

Nick

Been following both threads and it looks like you are coming along fine.Maybe not as fast as you'd like,but you're progressing. 

So the new cylinder head came in the mail and the cylinder walls look really good!  Should barely need a hone to get it ready to slap in.



However, I did notice some bad scratches on the mating surfaces!!!!    do you think these will cause any leaks later on down the road?  Or can they be fixed since this piece is heading to the machine shop in the next day or two?







Then after unpacking it from its HORRIBLE packaging (it actually broke through the box it was shipped in!), some of the fins come off in my hands!

That sux out loud.I would contact the seller.You maybe be able to have the new cylinder pressed out and pressed into the original cylinder block.Those gouges will cause a base gasket leak and you need all the cooling fins you can get in AZ.

This is turning into more silly work than I thought, starting to think I should have just overbored the original cylinders and moved on.  Any clue what that might cost?  I've got $75 in the rings, pins, and clips, and I'm assuming $50 for the hone.  I could have gotten the OS pistons for $250, then I'm assuming $150 for the overbore.

So $400 for a perfect matched fit versus $125 plus the cylinders being pressed out and pressed in to the other walls.  Almost going to negate the price difference lol

Anyone else know what that pressing might cost?  Or if that damage could be fixed by welding and sanding it smooth at the machine shop?  Or if it will cause a bad leak?

Quote from: utgunslinger13 on June 26, 2008, 09:39:37 AM
This is turning into more silly work than I thought, starting to think I should have just overbored the original cylinders and moved on.  Any clue what that might cost?  I've got $75 in the rings, pins, and clips, and I'm assuming $50 for the hone.  I could have gotten the OS pistons for $250, then I'm assuming $150 for the overbore.

So $400 for a perfect matched fit versus $125 plus the cylinders being pressed out and pressed in to the other walls.  Almost going to negate the price difference lol

Anyone else know what that pressing might cost?  Or if that damage could be fixed by welding and sanding it smooth at the machine shop?  Or if it will cause a bad leak?

Don't you already have a machinist lined up? Take your parts to him and discuss your options:

• Using e-bay cylinders as-is (possible mating issues)
• Pressing sleeves into old cylinders (possible cost/compatibility issues)
• Overbore

Because he can see the damage in person, the machinist will be able to give you an accurate opinion on the best course of action. He will also be able to provide a good estimate of costs.

Either way, you need the machinist to confirm that you can use your old pistons with these new cylinders. That is not a given and may eliminate several of the options altogether.

True, I'm just stuck as to when I can stop by and speak with him as I work 8-5:30 m-f and he's only open 8-6.  He's about an hour drive from my work so I was hoping to get some advice before I made the drive down there.

Thanks for the input though, it does make a lot of sense.

Nick

I was unable to meet him this morning like I had originally planned, so I'm working on setting up an appointment for tomorrow morning and seeing what my options are.  Will keep everyone updated!

Hey there,
That has to be discouraging about receiving the used parts in that condition -- those scrapes on the gasket surfaces are not good at all.
I hope that your machinist has some promising possibilities for you when he checks out all the components.
Those guys can be magicians with damaged parts!
Good luck.
We await the results of your visit with the machinist. This unfolding story is like reading a great novel!   

Yeah it was a love/hate thing.  I was looking at it and thought "AWESOME! Cylinders look perfect!" then turned it over seen the scratch and about screamed!  I just got off the phone with the machinist and he is not working on saturday so I won't be able to drop parts off till Monday morning now.  I told him about the situation and he said he would figure out what we could do on Monday.  So now I have to figure out what I want to work on this weekend!

So while waiting for the machinist to look at the parts, I decided to touch up a couple other parts and install the new top triple with the new ignition.

Here are the handlebars and gauges removed, along with the top triple:



Here is the newly painted and installed top triple:




However, when I was removing the gauges I did notice that the tach cable wasn't connected and after a little investigation the idiot who sold it to me had installed a gauge from the newer bikes and its not mechanical!



And I have also noticed a couple things that I'm starting to wonder about, first part of the VIN seems to be missing?



And the damage around the old ignition mixed in with mis-matched keys for the ignition and gas tank.



Along with the fact the ignition has been replaced?





Or maybe I'm just worried about nothing, could have easily lost the keys and had to replace the ignition but didn't bother with the gas tank or seat lock and the scratches could be incidental?