Be safe no matter what you do and have tons of fun, but take a minute out of the celebration to reflect on the true meaning of the holiday.

I no im a not a American , But its my Cats First birthday today , he was Born on the 4th , Have a good one everyone 

Yes happy Fourth everyone...remember, if you see there could be a problem with someone's aim stay safe folks

happy 4th to all my american friends!!!!

Quote from: yamahonkawazuki on July 04, 2008, 03:13:56 AM

where in the world do you find these smilies???

i am a half and half so i have Canada day 1st and independence day 4th   yahooooo

Yeah, have a good day people.

Terrifying thought, If you guys renounced the declaration of Independence, where I live would become 51st state. Someone very worthy wrote a fictional account of it.

what?

Quote from: Cal Price on July 04, 2008, 09:46:55 AM
Yeah, have a good day people.

Terrifying thought, If you guys renounced the declaration of Independence, where I live would become 51st state. Someone very worthy wrote a fictional account of it.

Are you referring to the movie the 51st state? Over here it was marketed as formula 51.

Whats cool is the same writer is adapting Arthur C Clarkes Rendevous with Rama for the big screen. 

And my 4th was horrible I have something wrong caused a fever cycling between 99 and 103.5 for the past 2 days, this independance day blew for me.

Quote from: bombadillo on July 04, 2008, 08:28:17 AM

Quote from: yamahonkawazuki on July 04, 2008, 03:13:56 AM

where in the world do you find these smilies???

a website i belong to, i "borrow their smilies"

I get all goose-pimply when I read it.  The guys who signed it risked death (or worse) for the freedoms we enjoy to this day.  It is also some first-class prose in its own right.  It's not an easy read, but here it is:

http://www.ushistory.org/Declaration/document/index.htm


IN CONGRESS, JULY 4, 1776
The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America
hen in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.

He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their Public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.

He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.

He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected, whereby the Legislative Powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.

He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.

He has obstructed the Administration of Justice by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers.

He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.

He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power.

He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:

For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:

For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:

For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences:

For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies

For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:

For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.

He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.

He has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.

He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.

He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.

He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our British brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these united Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States, that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. — And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor.


Now, stop whining about $4/gallon gas and count your blessings!   

http://wwrdheritage.org/  , down near teh bottom right of the [-age ( at the bottom, get a free bill of rights/constitution, meh even you liberals who dont like conserevatism, can still do it  , and least long enough to get the copy 

4 buck an hour gas which the oil industry has manipulated the commodities system to hit those hight.  living in fear or the boogy man, police everywhere, constitutional rights trampled on.  health care for the extremely rich or extremely poor.  pharmaceutical companies raking in money. a electoral system that the UN deems  below standard so much so that Americans can't watch other countries as observers.  no built in bi partisan secretariat of elections.  the ruling party makes the rules even when it comes to elections.   too many laws, too many people in jail, too many people executed, too many murders, too much crime, too much fear, to many cops on the street abusing peoples rights.

but all  is not bad.  you are free to go bankrupt and then get free health care.  you are free to ride your motorcycle without a helmet, crash it and go broke paying for the medical bill.  you are free to join the military and die in some god forsaken foreign land for some unknown reason.  you are free to have as many kids as you want even if the state is paying for them.  you are free to eat too much become fat a diabetic and free to die from obesity.  you are free to own a gun and shoot yourself in the foot while cleaning it.  or own a gun and turn it on others.

but we are free so that is all good

yeah teh gas problem is worldwide so the us isnt totally to blame there but yeah, were all free to make choices, bad or good, better or worse, so happy fourth

Yaaaaawnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn. Let me awaken from my stupor/slumber and just type ..................

Frankie. It is bad. It is gonna get worse. There are some bad times a comin' in the next 5 years or so. There are some people however, that are just hangin' out and  waitin' for all the shootin' to start.   

Gotta get back to rest.